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Old 21 Mar 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3809730)   #1
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 21:36 (Ref:3809738)   #2
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So leave Ford because you get no support, but go to Holden where unless you're T8 you get...no support???
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 21:39 (Ref:3809740)   #3
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AMERICAN MOGUL Roger Penske has upped the pressure on Ford Australia to support his Supercars team by declaring that a switch to Holden isn’t out of the question.
I'm not sure how this is upping pressure on Ford, Ford dont give a rats about Supercars or DJRTP, Penske could go and run billycarts for all they care. Its basically a given that his team (and the entire field), will be in Holdens by 2020.

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He admitted that discussions with other manufacturers had been unsuccessful, leaving the new ZB Commodore as the logical alternative.
This is the real story, even the might of Roger Penske and the history of DJR cant get any other manufacturers interested in the series. You'd imagine being the smart operator he is that he's already given Nissan a call too. The reality is, the series will have one type of car on the grid in 2020, possibly with two different engine types, possibly not.
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 21:55 (Ref:3809743)   #4
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I'm not sure how this is upping pressure on Ford, Ford dont give a rats about Supercars or DJRTP, Penske could go and run billycarts for all they care. Its basically a given that his team (and the entire field), will be in Holdens by 2020.


This is the real story, even the might of Roger Penske and the history of DJR cant get any other manufacturers interested in the series. You'd imagine being the smart operator he is that he's already given Nissan a call too. The reality is, the series will have one type of car on the grid in 2020, possibly with two different engine types, possibly not.
While I agree with all of the above, do you really think someone with the background that RP has, would want to source cars from RD, instead of doing a lot of the weekday stuff themselves? I reckon he'd sooner sell up.
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 22:08 (Ref:3809745)   #5
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Supercars can't attract other manufacturers because there is so much bias towards holden and they can see that they would simply spend millions of dollars for no result just as nissan have done.
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 22:13 (Ref:3809747)   #6
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Surely he would have some sway with Ford in the US to get what he needs.

Wonder whether his actions here are to simply vent frustration, or to apply leverage.
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 22:50 (Ref:3809753)   #7
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Surely he would have some sway with Ford in the US to get what he needs.

Wonder whether his actions here are to simply vent frustration, or to apply leverage.
Leverage from who? Ford Australia arent interested, Ford US wouldnt be reading Auto Action real often I'm tipping.
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Supercars can't attract other manufacturers because there is so much bias towards holden and they can see that they would simply spend millions of dollars for no result just as nissan have done.
What a joke.

If Ford hadn't been dumb enough to lose 888, Ford would have won everything for the last N+1 years and some people would be complaining about Ford bias.

None of you complained when 888's FGs beat all comers!
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 23:55 (Ref:3809763)   #9
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What a joke.

If Ford hadn't been dumb enough to lose 888, Ford would have won everything for the last N+1 years and some people would be complaining about Ford bias.

None of you complained when 888's FGs beat all comers!
I'm not talking about Ford I'm talking about all the manufacturers that don't want to participate in the series, supercars need to do something different like introduce BoP otherwise they are just ****ing into the wind if they are trying to grow the category, it will most likely shrink to a holden only category before it disappears forever.........then you can watch the remnants of it in sports sedans.
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I'm not talking about Ford I'm talking about all the manufacturers that don't want to participate in the series, supercars need to do something different like introduce BoP otherwise they are just ****ing into the wind if they are trying to grow the category, it will most likely shrink to a holden only category before it disappears forever.........then you can watch the remnants of it in sports sedans.
We have BoP in supercars. To a high level The issue is that one teams does better than others.
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Old 22 Mar 2018, 00:23 (Ref:3809768)   #11
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When Roger Penske cant attract manufacturers then you know you have serious problems. Good luck trying to convince a new manufacturer to join the series with the currents costs needed to join and stay up the pointy end. Costs have to fall and not just by a tenth. If that makes the cars a bit slower then so be it. Lap times arent everything
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Old 22 Mar 2018, 00:28 (Ref:3809770)   #12
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We have BoP in supercars. To a high level The issue is that one teams does better than others.
It's not BoP, it's BoT (balance of technicality)
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It's not BoP, it's BoT (balance of technicality)
same thing in this case.
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Old 22 Mar 2018, 04:06 (Ref:3809786)   #14
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for the good of the sport I hope not
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Old 22 Mar 2018, 08:56 (Ref:3809835)   #15
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If Penske switches to Holden, then it is a disaster for the series and another step towards SuperHolden Cup. I don't have anything against Holden (ok, not a fan of 888 but I like SVG still), it's actually great that they want to be involved in the series so much, but for God's sake, we can't have the only one car make in the sharp end of the field or even on the whole grid.
I really hope that Penske will be able to get some backing from Ford (from the USA for example, they are a factory Ford team in NASCAR) or to attract a new manufacturer. But it seems rather unlikely for now...
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