Nikita Mazepin - Page 13

Knowlesy · 10 May 2021, 17:02 (Ref:4050908)

My bad. I forgot the sarcasm smiley there. My post was a deliberate absurdity.

**Peter Mallett** · 10 May 2021, 17:08 (Ref:4050910)

I don't believe yew.

TrapezeArtist · 10 May 2021, 17:10 (Ref:4050911)

Mazepin? Like Pastor Maldonado, but without the talent.

**chunterer** · 10 May 2021, 21:06 (Ref:4050934)

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

Honest question, given that they are a parts buying team, how much of a march can they actually get on any following season?

Would a top team, one that is also presumably playing it close to the chest in order to steal a march for themselves.

Stealing a March might actually make the team more competitive. The 821 was never fully developed.

chillibowl · 10 May 2021, 23:37 (Ref:4050955)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Stealing a March might actually make the team more competitive. The 821 was never fully developed.

tux · 11 May 2021, 09:29 (Ref:4050997)

Outstanding quote from a post race interview.

The Haas driver said he is still learning how to respond to F1’s blue flags. “I was dealing with these blue flag in Imola for the first time in my life,” he explained. “I previously never had a blue flag on a consistent basis.

“So it’s a matter of learning just the same as driving. And it took me about five, seven years to learn proper driving and it’s going to take me, hopefully, a few race weekends only to learn blue flags.”

https://www.racefans.net/2021/05/11/...nd-up-11-05-4/

**Aysedasi** · 11 May 2021, 10:10 (Ref:4051001)

That's utterly barmy.....

**Peter Mallett** · 11 May 2021, 10:19 (Ref:4051006)

How do you get a superlicence if you don't know how to behave when flags (of any colour) are waved. Even amateurs are required to know what to do and if they fail to obey they are disqualified at best and banned at worst.

E.B · 11 May 2021, 10:43 (Ref:4051008)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

How do you get a superlicence if you don't know how to behave when flags (of any colour) are waved. Even amateurs are required to know what to do and if they fail to obey they are disqualified at best and banned at worst.

crmalcolm · 11 May 2021, 11:23 (Ref:4051017)

I might be wrong - but is it not the case that Blue Flags are used in a subtly different way in F1 to other series'?

i.e. - in some regulations, the blue flag is not a mandatory requirement, but a warning of an approaching faster car?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that F1 is very specific in that it is only shown to a car about to be lapped, and has the 3-flag count system, which is not used outside of F1?

chillibowl · 11 May 2021, 11:46 (Ref:4051021)

Its more then just blue flags though as he has been impeding drivers in pratice and quali.

The other drivers also believe he lacks quality.

https://streamable.com/p0k7r5

Mike Harte · 11 May 2021, 12:13 (Ref:4051038)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I might be wrong - but is it not the case that Blue Flags are used in a subtly different way in F1 to other series'?

i.e. - in some regulations, the blue flag is not a mandatory requirement, but a warning of an approaching faster car?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that F1 is very specific in that it is only shown to a car about to be lapped, and has the 3-flag count system, which is not used outside of F1?

MSUK Year Book , known as the Blue Book, is slightly confusing in this respect. It says that a stationary blue flag will be shown to a car that is about to be lapped, but the flag will be waved if the faster car wants to pass. However, in another segment, it just says that the stationary flag will be shown if a car is following closely, and waved if it is trying to pass - no mention of being lapped.

What I can say from 50 years ago, and I don't know if it still happens, is that it was quite common at the drivers' briefing that the competitors would be told to respect other drivers and to move out of the way when another car was obviously much quicker than you; it required drivers to use common sense and therefore not to impede others. We were also told about when to yield a corner to a car attempting to overtake; that was at the point when the car behind had it's front wheels level with the front car's rear wheels.

The Blue Book also says that drivers ignoring the flags will be reported to race control, but doesn't appear to mention the 3 flag rule that applies to F1.

S griffin · 11 May 2021, 12:14 (Ref:4051040)

He seems to have taken a lesson from the Rene Arnoux and Olivier Grouilard school of thinking mirrors are only there for your own reflection

S griffin · 11 May 2021, 12:23 (Ref:4051044)

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

Its more then just blue flags though as he has been impeding drivers in pratice and quali.

The other drivers also believe he lacks quality.

https://streamable.com/p0k7r5

That was hilariously savage! Notice Kimi was very keen to get in front of him. And Stroll doing a DC gesture there!

chillibowl · 11 May 2021, 14:29 (Ref:4051072)

haha savage is a good word for it!

Richard C · 11 May 2021, 14:56 (Ref:4051077)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

That was hilariously savage! Notice Kimi was very keen to get in front of him. And Stroll doing a DC gesture there!

I think Stroll may be happy he is no longer the primary poster child for "Rich Dad buys him an F1 drive". It also helps that Stroll IMHO has massively improved since his entry into the sport. Question is... will Mazepin do the same? Or has he reached his level of incompetence?

Richard

chillibowl · 11 May 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4051079)

latifi also not very happy...oh how theses billionaire boys club members fight!

in another video courtesy of reddit, Mick (not quite the same kind of billionaire boys club member as the others but his dad's career earnings potentially put him over 1B) showing love to his mechanics post race.

https://streamable.com/nplr55

i like to see this.

S griffin · 11 May 2021, 16:21 (Ref:4051096)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I think Stroll may be happy he is no longer the primary poster child for "Rich Dad buys him an F1 drive". It also helps that Stroll IMHO has massively improved since his entry into the sport. Question is... will Mazepin do the same? Or has he reached his level of incompetence?

Richard

Stroll did at least get a podium in his first year and didn’t often get in other’s people way in practice/qualifying/being lapped if at all.

My brother says Mazepin reminds him of Diniz and I can certainly see the similarities, especially considering both used heavy backing to get into F1. And to be fair Diniz looked out of his depth in F1 to begin, but he improved to be competent enough, so we’ll see on Mazepin. Still, if only Illiot had the backing....

steve_r · 11 May 2021, 18:17 (Ref:4051115)

Diniz outqualified Damon Hill around Spa. Mazepin is no Diniz - not yet anyway.

wnut · 12 May 2021, 05:36 (Ref:4051178)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

Diniz outqualified Damon Hill around Spa. Mazepin is no Diniz - not yet anyway.

Looking at Mazepin's record on Wiki, I noticed he had 2 poles, better than I expected, then looked down to the notes!

0 poles achieved during qualifying, and 2 poles given as a result of the reverse grid in the sprint race

That is not a pole!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Mazepin

When did starting from pole on a reverse grid race qualify as qualifying on pole?! The data system needs a bit of attention.

Jimmy Magnusson · 12 May 2021, 08:26 (Ref:4051196)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

Diniz outqualified Damon Hill around Spa. Mazepin is no Diniz - not yet anyway.

Diniz wasn't exactly stellar in the early stages of his career. Mazepin has every opportunity to develop as he gains mileage and experience. This is what usually happens - drivers like Diniz, Petrov, Latifi et cetera that hang around for a couple of years and that you really don't miss when they're gone. For Mazepin I'd say this is a lot more likely than him going the way of Yuji Ide.

midgetman · 12 May 2021, 08:28 (Ref:4051197)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Looking at Mazepin's record on Wiki, I noticed he had 2 poles, better than I expected, then looked down to the notes!

0 poles achieved during qualifying, and 2 poles given as a result of the reverse grid in the sprint race

That is not a pole!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Mazepin

When did starting from pole on a reverse grid race qualify as qualifying on pole?! The data system needs a bit of attention.

It's Wikipedia. You shouldn't believe everything you read.

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S griffin · 12 May 2021, 09:31 (Ref:4051214)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

It's Wikipedia. You shouldn't believe everything you read.

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It can be quite entertaining though at times

Gerard C · 12 May 2021, 18:21 (Ref:4051291)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

You shouldn't believe everything you read.

Cant believe this…

Skam85 · 14 May 2021, 01:02 (Ref:4051565)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

Diniz wasn't exactly stellar in the early stages of his career. Mazepin has every opportunity to develop as he gains mileage and experience. This is what usually happens - drivers like Diniz, Petrov, Latifi et cetera that hang around for a couple of years and that you really don't miss when they're gone. For Mazepin I'd say this is a lot more likely than him going the way of Yuji Ide.

As a comparison, Max Chilton was someone that got some derision for his lack of pace in a poor car. Bianchi was a much higher rated driver than Mick is, and even Chilton wasn't finishing races a minute behind his teammate. Now Mick is good and will have a good career, but I'm not sure there are a whole lot yet putting him in the future star status Bianchi was.

Mazepin is nowhere near it and is totally pants. He's no Ide or Inoue, granted. More of an Alex Yoong.

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