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18 Nov 2012, 17:40 (Ref:3167997) | #51 | ||
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Team bosses and sponsors will wonder about someone that worked to become a pro driver from an early age and now chooses to dump everything and go off and navel gaze and find yourself. Burnt out at 23? You've only just begun. And a lot of these people that matter will question motivation going forwards. Personally I think a year off might be beneficial in his shoes, depending on what he does with it. I'm not sure the heavy hitters in the business will see it that way though. The Stones have to be disappointed having sunk so much into him. |
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Yes there is no doubt that this is big news, and at first i just thought it was all online rumours......surely Shane, in his position, would not just chuck it all in, surely?
But then again there seems to be so much going on in the real world of Supercar racing and its clearly done his head in. Burnt out at 23, well in my mind thats quite serious and i wonder if any of the other younger 'stars' are feeling the same? On the flip of all this is where to from here. Could this opening see McGlaughlin at SBR? (although i did see a comment on here about him going to Tekno or GRM)? Could this see cheese-burger doing a few rounds (if not the whole season) in a SuperTourer in 2013? Afterall, isn't the series going from 20 to 24 cars for next years opening in February 2013? I hear SVG will be at Ruapuna this weekend 'checking out' the series.....not looking in to it too deeply though, but it begs the question. If he just goes drifting and/or quad biking, then to me this is a waste of talent and opportunity - not wanting to belittle the drifters, i'm sure there is real 'talent' (ahem) in what they do, but its not racing, its just showing off. Quad biking, well i know nothing about that and what is available in NZ, so wont pass comment there. Either way though this is a big smack in the face for Supercars - will others follow, or has Shane just got onto a bad track with SBR and can't face staying with it? |
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It takes a ****load more talent to drift than drive a race car, but it has a very niche market of supporters. |
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19 Nov 2012, 06:01 (Ref:3168300) | #55 | |
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Anyone who says there's no driving or engineering talent at the highest level of drifting is full of themselves, or has no actual concept of what it's all about.
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19 Nov 2012, 06:23 (Ref:3168307) | #57 | ||
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Its like i said, its not racing. But you both have a good point in that it will take some level of talent and commitment to reach the upper echelons of that niche sport.
Point taken on both accounts Giz did show some promise with the drifting side of things too, makes you wonder if all that crazy (but of course staying in control!) wet driving he's done over the years has set him up well for that type of thing. |
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19 Nov 2012, 06:35 (Ref:3168309) | #58 | ||
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Hang on, are you saying V8SCs are rigged? Drifting.is judged. Racing is first past the post..
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I'm at a loss as to how you came up with that conclusion, but A+ for effort.
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E is for Effort, A is for accuracy. Drifting results are based on a persons (or group of people's) opinion, Racing results are based on physical times from a stopwatch. And I would think that the Giz is probably not sick of racing SC's, but sick of it being the only thing he is allowed to race, as I know he was lokking at doing some other stuff as well that he would now not be allowed to do if he stayed where he is. also Quote:
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19 Nov 2012, 08:24 (Ref:3168328) | #62 | |
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shanes dad "cheese" is building 2 x new BDG Escort rally cars
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19 Nov 2012, 08:27 (Ref:3168329) | #63 | ||
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Chat with Shane from Manfeild
http://youtu.be/LgOGGUbLrvs His debut into D1NZ can be directly related to his racing experience, especially in V8SC. It's still about racing line, being fast, and plenty of precise throttle control, the only difference is looking out the side windows Some might think he is a waste of talent for leaving V8SC but drifting can take him around the world if Monster go with him, not to mention a much more casual lifestyle compared to the demands of the supercars. Have to love how people think they know whats best for the guy, but only he knows that. He can do what he likes. He's been thrust into the spotlight at a young age and probably missed out on growing up like his friends, it might be a dream for most to he a V8SC driver, for him too, but maybe behind closed doors things aren't what it's cracked up to be. SVG fan from the start and will follow his talents through to whatever he does next. Ps, the Rattla team announced a second car for next year (ford mustang), you do the maths. |
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Drifting I'm sure like any category requires it's own special talents and unique engineering challenges but let's face it, it's the synchronised swimming of motorsport.
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Unlike synchronised swimming, drifting is not considered to be boring.
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19 Nov 2012, 09:16 (Ref:3168356) | #69 | |
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Back on to Shane. I think you will find things have changed a bit at SBR now they are with the people who have the three pointed star!!!
The Abu Dhabi round the stone brothers were not even there. I think a year off will be good for Shane. Not that I believe for a minute he needs a year off. |
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Or to decide to stay away permanently.. There is an element of repetition of showing up at various racetracks across the world, with the same group of people week after week, talking about the same things week after week, not being ultimately successful in pole positions or race wins... it can be absolutely draining. Perhaps Mr Van Gisbergen is making a decision that others much older than him are actually too scared to make, that like the money train too much to give it up.. and get a real job... Lets see what happens next |
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I'm well aware of how drifting works. The guy i quoted implied it was a lesser motorsport because its not a race around a track. |
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Different skills, judged on aesthetics rather than speed. But an exciting form of motorsport, especially in Japan where the only professional series with pro teams and drivers run. In Australia and New Zealand it's still a predominantly amateur pursuit - there's no fully professional drift teams or drivers (by which none use it as their primary occupation or income stream). A few semi-pros, but that's it. |
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20 Nov 2012, 05:35 (Ref:3168908) | #74 | ||
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Bummer. I was just chatting with a buddy about V8s, and we were in agreement that SVG was "the future of the sport".
That would be like Vettel getting bored with F1 in 2009. |
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