Magny Cours

mandretti39 · 19 Oct 2005, 13:39 (Ref:1437960)

I know a lot of people have done changes to the Magny Cours track, but I have realized I have never posted one. First thing I did was move the pit complex and start/finish line to in between Estoril, which no longer exists in its current form, and just after Golf. The track still runs clockwise. The first change to the track is that Adelaide has been moved closer to Golf, and the track between Adelaide and Nurburgring has been straightend. I also "straightened out" 180 Degrees in order to be able to fit the paddock between the two straights. The next change isn't until the new Lycee. Lycee was the final chicane, but since I removed it, it is now the hairpin, which was tightened. Before Lycee, I tightened the preceeding corner, but now that I look at it, the original track would have looked better. Grand Courbe has been made longer, and is now followed by a right-handed hairpin. The final corner is reminiscent(sp?) of the final corner at Catalunya. I have also named the corner "Behra," which is named after Jean Behra, who was the person the original track was named after.

What do you think?

Alwaysfirst · 19 Oct 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1438330)

I think it's ok but in getting rid of Estoril you have got rid of one of the few good corners on the track. Also I think that on that scale Behra would be a lot tighter than the final corner at Catalunya & would be more like the tightness on Ste Devote at Monaco.

f1freak · 20 Oct 2005, 23:13 (Ref:1439257)

I reckon it looks good as a stand alone circuit... but not a good edit of Magny-Cours...

Lustigson · 24 Oct 2005, 10:42 (Ref:1441972)

Magny-Cours isn't a bad track, IMO, it's just in the middle of *******' nowhere. And if you'd decide to change it, I'm afraid just altering a few corners won't do. You'd have to completely overhaul the track.

shambles · 24 Oct 2005, 14:29 (Ref:1442212)

I like it, Magny-Cours isn't really a good circuit. One of the worst in F1 -i.e. if it went away, I wouldn't be too bothered!

PAUL

the_royksopp · 24 Oct 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1442437)

I agree that Magny Cours has to be changed, but i don't really agree in your edit

. In fact, you might have made it even worse...

**John Turner** · 24 Oct 2005, 18:59 (Ref:1442451)

I deleted the message, I didn't edit it! The one above that was an automated website edit, nothing to do with me (see FAQs about words/asterisks).

Anyway, back to thread

Purist · 24 Oct 2005, 22:53 (Ref:1442632)

I think it could be better with a straight after the right hander following the 180 in the infield. Then, have a long left curve into a 90, another straight, and a fast right hand curve leading onto the current course just before the 180 that exits the infield. Also, they really should get rid of that chicane just before start/finish.

The alternates that I like reasonably well would be Paul Ricard (the long course used in the 70s and early to mid 80s), Le Mans (endurance circuit), or (yeah, not gonna happen) Reims or Rouen. I just haven't particularly liked Magny Cours or Dijon Prenois. Clermont Ferrand was alright. I simply haven't been that impressed with most of the newer circuits in France.

Lustigson · 25 Oct 2005, 11:10 (Ref:1442924)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purist

Also, they really should get rid of that chicane just before start/finish.

True. There's no purpose whatsoever for that chicane other than to further slow the cars down on the main straight. So it sucks.

Jam35 · 27 Oct 2005, 14:08 (Ref:1445114)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lustigson

True. There's no purpose whatsoever for that chicane other than to further slow the cars down on the main straight. So it sucks.

Then there's that other ghastly chicane wrecking the run into 180°, and another wrecking the run into Château d'Eau.

Magny Cours probably needs a semi-total blast. The section from the beginning of the start/finish straight to the exit of Adelaide is great. The other half of the track, despite being made up of corners that would work on their own, really doesn't work at all.

All of which gives me an idea - here's half a Magny Cours. What would everyone here put as the other half given this nice blank canvas?

Lustigson · 27 Oct 2005, 16:23 (Ref:1445235)

Hmm... interesting. I might have a go a little bit later on.

Lustigson · 27 Oct 2005, 16:50 (Ref:1445270)

That first part of the track is pretty good, indeed. However, the other part of the track isn't all that bad.

I think the problem is dat the two possible overtaking spots -- 180 and that unnamed right-hander right after Imola -- are preceded by two quick right-left sweepers. They on themselves aren't bad corners, but they're simply in the wrong spot.

The first of those turns, Nürburgring, could be moved way back and more towards Adelaide. The second, Imola, we might be better of without, because there doesn't appear to be any room to move it.

By the way, I also made the run towards that anonymous right-hander a bit shorter. There's not enough room for run-off, I think, with the cars aproaching the turn much faster on that straight.

pirenzo · 27 Oct 2005, 17:34 (Ref:1445304)

The unnamed right hander is chateau d'eau IIRC.

Lustigson · 27 Oct 2005, 19:06 (Ref:1445383)

D'oh! Of course. I forgot. It didn't have a name on the Racingcircuits.net map.

Lustigson · 27 Oct 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1445410)

Here it is with a Google map underneath.

By the way, if you try to paste the Racingcircuits.net map onto the Google map, it doesn't fit. Probably has something to do with the angle of the Google satellites or something.

the_royksopp · 28 Oct 2005, 15:37 (Ref:1446128)

That's pretty much what i'd do too..

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