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17 Oct 2002, 11:12 (Ref:406395)
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Brabham, Magnussen split with Panoz
Don Panoz is crazy.... Star sportcars partners David Brabham and Jan Magnussen have been released from their contracts Panoz team... Ohh...It's really bad...!!!
 They were the Panoz best drivers...
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17 Oct 2002, 11:20 (Ref:406402)
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Link to the story
http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=21014&s=12 This really opens up the driver market in the ALMS, with Lehto and McNish also being available for drives. That is providing that they stay in the series. However the most distressing part of this story is Panoz's plans to drop the prototypes. 
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17 Oct 2002, 11:58 (Ref:406423)
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Disappointing maybe, but not really surprising. The team haven't exactly covered themselves with glory over the last 5 years.
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17 Oct 2002, 13:44 (Ref:406489)
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I just don't think Panoz'll be racing at all next year... I think with Cadillac and Audi officially pulling out their factory teams, a concensus has developed to put the series in the hands of the privateers for now...
And let's be honest, the LMP-01 is not a competitive car anymore... It's being outclassed by the cheaper R&S Mk III C using the same engine. And it'd be obselete anyways once the ground effects come back due to the driveshaft. I just hope the development of the Elan V8 continues. That's a really strong engine! |
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17 Oct 2002, 13:49 (Ref:406494)
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Perhaps Panoz will team up with R&S for next year? I thought I heard a rumour that linked them, based on the Elan connection.
(waiting for the other shoe) |
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17 Oct 2002, 13:50 (Ref:406496)
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What a shame !
At the opposite, Don Panoz confirmed to Michel Cosson (ACO Chairman), at Chateau Elan during the awards ceremony, a partnership 'till 2008, and probably after... Michel Cosson said that PLM is going to become a Great Le Mans... But no news about the cars... and Michel Cosson said that it will be mainly privateer teams next year... What to think about all that stuff ? :confused: |
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17 Oct 2002, 14:04 (Ref:406506)
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Panoz wants to set-up again in the GTS category. Shame Magnussen and Brabham had to leave, they were the only cars who looked like challenging Audi till caddilac arrived. Another blow to the sports car industry. Hope Jan and David are signed together for a new top team.
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17 Oct 2002, 16:17 (Ref:406581)
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Its not a blow. The Panoz LMP is no longer competitive and cannot compete with the R&SMkIIIc and especially the MGs and Domes, let alone the Audis.
Next year, in LMP, there will be good privateer teams running good cars like Dysons 2 cars, Matthews, privateer Audis, Dome, IRM and the like. Whats the point of a very expensive Panoz works team struggling to keep up with the top privateers. The ALMS is trying to postion itself so that IF works teams come in they allow customer chassis to be sold unlike Aud/BMW for a lot of the time. Any new LMPs would only arrive in 2004 and later due to the new regs. The new Lola LMP900 will probably be the car of choice in 2004 considering the MGs performance. The goog thing about a Panoz GTS is that it will enable teams to purchase a cost effective, competitive GTS car to compete with Corvette and Saleen and create great rivlry among the American Manufactuers. |
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17 Oct 2002, 17:13 (Ref:406618)
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Very, very interesting, I think it is a real shame, I hope they can find drives else where (Bentley). As for the Panoz pull-out that is also an interesting, move it will be itnteresting to see if the cars make Le Mans next year.
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17 Oct 2002, 17:25 (Ref:406631)
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Panoz don't have a great budget, so releasing Brabham and Magnussen is a good move.
Even if they are great drivers. |
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18 Oct 2002, 10:33 (Ref:407100)
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Good move?? Without good drivers is impossible to develop a good car.
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18 Oct 2002, 11:07 (Ref:407119)
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You've gotta be joking! No Brabham at Panoz
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18 Oct 2002, 11:07 (Ref:407120)
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Really poor timing isn't it, right after Mags won the "For the Fans" award by a landslide? Still this should give him a good chance of catching on with someone else.
But there are plenty of new cars coming on line and I'm sure they'll both find good drives. I'll miss That Panoz Sound though. |
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18 Oct 2002, 11:53 (Ref:407163)
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I'm hoping that sound'll still be there, Liz... Just in a more competive Riley & Scott chassis.
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18 Oct 2002, 14:27 (Ref:407238)
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Mags is already trying to find a drive in CART or IRL. He's a Formula lover.
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