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Old 19 Dec 2013, 00:55 (Ref:3345747)   #76
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The risk for V8SA is that they may have traded more money up front for much less long term exposure which is a big turn off for sponsors not to mention the 80% of the population that doesn't have pay TV.
I think thats it right there.

V8SA and the teams have been bleeding all year and they have made a decision to get take an increased revenue stream up front in order to get funds to the teams.

This is a short term benefit that may have long term implications for sponsorships etc

Potentially similar to the TEGA agreeing to decrease their profit share from 75% to 35% and then complain 12 months later when they recieved a reduced/non existent dividend :rolleyes
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 01:18 (Ref:3345754)   #77
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Where is this promise, particularly the ad free part
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FOX SPORTS CEO, Patrick Delany, said: “V8 Supercars have a proud history of innovation. We relish the opportunity to work with talented V8 Supercars race teams and the team at V8 Supercars TV to give the sport the FOX SPORTS treatment – every minute of practice, qualifying, support categories and the Championship races – all LIVE and in stunning HD.
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 01:43 (Ref:3345763)   #78
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My beef with Foxtel has always been how they pick and choose the 'packages' so if you want the popular channels you have to pay for 80 channels of other **** you don't want. For a hundred bucks+ a month Torrenting looks good...
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 01:48 (Ref:3345764)   #79
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My beef with Foxtel has always been how they pick and choose the 'packages' so if you want the popular channels you have to pay for 80 channels of other **** you don't want. For a hundred bucks+ a month Torrenting looks good...
Hence why Rupert has gotten his mate Mr Broadband Mal to give you some pos NBN so you're forced into getting his Foxtel or staying on some crappy slow broadband
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 03:28 (Ref:3345788)   #80
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Ok, fair assumption to make I guess given the every minute part. I guess my skepticism is because it isn't spelt out exactly that it is going to be ad-free. I hope it is ad-free I hate the fact that pay tv has almost as many ads as fta tv
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 04:15 (Ref:3345794)   #81
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My take on this is that it will be this:
1) All the marquee races (streets + enduros) will be shown live on FTA with the street races all twilights.
2) The supersprint rounds will have a combination of highlights or delayed races in a condensed 2 hour package on each day leading into the news on FTA but be shown live on Fox.
3) Fox will show every session of every round live, plus support races.

For those saying that Foxtel are the lead broadcaster - you'd be correct. Which is the same with NRL & AFL deals - the bulk of the money for those deals comes from Fox, not FTA.

It's a good deal for fans as you can get much more V8s if you want to pay for it and, probably, marginally less but more conveniently broadcast on FTA.

For those knocking Channel 7 - I remember most people saying that they were glad that C7 got the rights all those years ago because they were sick of C10!

C7 definitely improved the quality over C10, but I think C10 will again lift it even higher. When networks get new rights they tend to put a big effort in to put their own stamp on it.

Commentary - unsure but there are a few near-as-definites:
Greg Rust will host (replacing Matt White)
Neil Crompton as the lead commentator
Daryl Beattie (probably in the pits)

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Aaron Noonan, either pits or as third commentator. He would add something different.
Mark Larkham - I'm a bit ambivalent, but he does what he does quite well.

Please no:
Mark Skaife - I was a fan when he first started, but he's not developed, is repetitive and annoying. He offers nothing that Crompton can't and Noonan would provide a better variety of comments.
Russell Ingall - We don't need more old boys having a laugh and getting into commentary cause it's easy money (see Mark Skaife). We need genuine experts who are willing to put the effort in and be 100% committed (see Aaron Noonan).

I don't have PayTV, but one of the good things is that I can go to a pub and watch the V8s live - which I can't do now.
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 04:37 (Ref:3345798)   #82
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I still repeat though that giving the TV and online rights to the one company has to be anti-competitive... There's NO way you're going to be able to just buy V8s streaming on its own without a Foxtel sub now.
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 09:00 (Ref:3345852)   #84
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Nothing really new in that article. Same questions with no answes
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Be interesting to see how series and team sponsors react to the news. I can see some staying, but others eg Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, Armorall, Supercheap, STP, Coates Hire, BOC, Bottle-O being not too happy with less coverage on FTA Channel 10, if indeed it turns out that way. I've never had FOXTEL, so I don't know if any of these organizations advertise on FOX already. It just doesn't seem like a good network to get maximum exposure, to the demographic that they are aiming at.
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 12:27 (Ref:3345901)   #86
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I won't be getting Foxtel, so I guess from 2015 I won't be watching as much V8 Supercars.

I wonder if Ch10 will delay the races by 2 or 3 days like they do with the NSC chase races.
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I won't be getting Foxtel, so I guess from 2015 I won't be watching as much V8 Supercars.

I wonder if Ch10 will delay the races by 2 or 3 days like they do with the NSC chase races.
I think you will find you are probably watching just as much, however not all of it will be live
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Old 19 Dec 2013, 21:31 (Ref:3346123)   #88
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I hope that Foxtel and 10 have different commentary teams so that it will be possible to avoid Mark Skaife.I know he is a big part of the V8SA gravy train but his blokey inside joke style of commentary is only amusing to his close friends and not informative at all.
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It's interesting to note that V8 Supercar’s TV production costs are $18 million per year, that means they only net $4 million per annum from the current Channel 7 deal, as opposed to circa $13 million with the new deal.

Probably about $200,000 p.a. gross for each 32 licences from 2015. I suppose it may pay for crash damage for the year at least.
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I won't be getting Foxtel, so I guess from 2015 I won't be watching as much V8 Supercars.

I wonder if Ch10 will delay the races by 2 or 3 days like they do with the NSC chase races.
Introductory offers aside, Foxtel is rather expensive. However, you also get other car and car racing programs including the New Zealand V8 Super Tourers, albeit delayed. Also the World Rally Championship, which is seriously delayed.

The best thing is IndyCar live (although I record it for later viewing).
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