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Old 1 Feb 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2624014)   #631
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A new re-worded story now for all to read...

Seems like Harry has changed his tune?

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4364
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 08:07 (Ref:2624249)   #632
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A new re-worded story now for all to read...

Seems like Harry has changed his tune?

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4364
Apparently a phone call from daddy... the gist of its here -

Howay Harry lad... what the **** is aaal dis **** I'm reedin abowt ye twittin dat yis not drivin in dat ****** bambooa team I set up for ye lad. Twit ya waya outta dat naa or eel close me wallit far guud, reet !
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 09:37 (Ref:2624302)   #633
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A new re-worded story now for all to read...

Seems like Harry has changed his tune?

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4364
Actually, no he hasn't ''changed'' his tune.

The TcT article originally put up made a lot of vague assumptions and didn't have a direct quote from Harry at all.

It all started on his Twitter page, when someone asked him a question (something along the lines of ''Are you doing BTCC next season?'' You can't see the question though), and the answer given was ''Not 100% sure, talking to teams and looking at options'' (sorry if thats not word for word, don't have a perfect memory )

Then TcT picked up on that and ran a story saying he wasn't going to be with bamboo this year. Just another case of them snooping around and posting rumours as gospel without doing their homework unfortunately. Obviously, someone along the lines has seen sense and asked Harry what the plan for this year was, and now we have the current article.

Poor journalism rather than Harry getting told off by parents/team/an internet forum.
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 10:01 (Ref:2624314)   #634
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This is what happened. Someone asked Harry if he was driving in the WTCC with Bamboo this season, to which he replied that he had been talking to other teams and nothing is confirmed.

TcT's Neil Hudson then picked up on this and used Harrys words from Twitter. Harry then asked Neil to remove the article and to contact him via email where Harry would give a proper interview. Hence the new article which we now see.

Harry obviously didn't realise that a tweet can be seen by anyone and has now seen the consequence.

I think that's the last time well be getting any information from Mr. Vaulkhard on that particular social networking site for sure.
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 10:43 (Ref:2624331)   #635
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All further complicated by the other story saying that the Bamboo website was indicating a WTCC campaign. If you click the link in their story now, you just get access denied, and the main page on the Bamboo website is still carrying BTCC stuff.

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Old 2 Feb 2010, 11:10 (Ref:2624342)   #636
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Actually, no he hasn't ''changed'' his tune.

The TcT article originally put up made a lot of vague assumptions and didn't have a direct quote from Harry at all.

It all started on his Twitter page, when someone asked him a question (something along the lines of ''Are you doing BTCC next season?'' You can't see the question though), and the answer given was ''Not 100% sure, talking to teams and looking at options''.

Poor journalism rather than Harry getting told off by parents/team/an internet forum.
It had a direct quote from Harry's Twitter, that has now been removed! Think that tells you all you need to know about somebody putting something on Twitter and that quote being reported, as has happened in the cases of Ryan Babel, Phil Hughes, Darren Bent and Bradley Wiggins, reported by all the national newspapers and relevant magazines, in the previous year. TCT, and other sites, only did the same as newspapers do, in picking out something of interest. Problem is with twitter is that sarcasm or irony often don't come across if that is what was intended.

But, the fact that all the offending tweets from Mr Vaulkhard have now mysteriously gone seems to indicate that while he hasn't neccessarily changed his tune, he's realised not to play that tune quite so publically.

James seems to have sumarised the situation quite neatly, while as gregc points out, the Bamboo page which spoke of WTCC plans has now mysteriously disappeared.... I think this one's got some mileage left in it for a while.

*Edit* Forgot to add, think the fact that at the same time as Mr Vaulkhard's ponderings there was the Bamboo site's WTCC proclamation and a story in a foreign motorsport magazine about a possible WTCC campaign, which all would have added to the theory that something was (or maybe still is!) up.
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 11:39 (Ref:2624357)   #637
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I think what he said on his Twitter is true but something that he wouldn't want to see in the news. He then rectified the situation by provided an interview.

I know you said they should have done their research but the Media is so fast paced that waiting for a reply can be slow and then the oppurtunity for the article has passed or already done before.

On another note it's nice to see that there are a lot of new and returning aces this season aswell as some new and interesting cars i.e. NGTC Vectra and the Golf
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 12:23 (Ref:2624381)   #638
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I think what he said on his Twitter is true but something that he wouldn't want to see in the news. He then rectified the situation by provided an interview.

I know you said they should have done their research but the Media is so fast paced that waiting for a reply can be slow and then the oppurtunity for the article has passed or already done before.
Although someone called James Mappin seems to have written the quote from twitter as news on his website ( http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/2010/01/3...several-teams/ ). Will be interesting to see whether many exclusives are on this website in the future
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 12:38 (Ref:2624393)   #639
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Although someone called James Mappin seems to have written the quote from twitter as news on his website ( http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/2010/01/3...several-teams/ ). Will be interesting to see whether many exclusives are on this website in the future
Even then, thats not 100% word for word accurate either, because ''the quote'' is more than 140 characters.

Pedantics aside, and on a different subject, even more Live TV coverage for the BTCC this year.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81202
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 12:59 (Ref:2624410)   #640
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That's all very well, but we need some confirmed entries to watch on this TV coverage first. I have a bad feeling that we may see a year like 2005. That first round at Donington was very depressing, struggling to get to double figures in terms of cars.
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Anyone fancy doing an updated table of the various confirmed/probable/likely/unlikely/dreaming rumoured entries? (I'm far too lazy to trawl through the thread and do it myself - I figure someone else must be bored enough to do it )
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 13:16 (Ref:2624417)   #642
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The extra hours really come from the increased number of repeats don't they? To say that there's an extra half an hour of live TV from every meeting isn't strictly true, as several of the programmes last year began at 11.30 or 11.45 (while others at 12.), so there's not 10 x 30mins extra. Anyway standardisation of the transmission times is to be applauded.

Not complaining mind you, well done ITV, just observing.

Also I didn't realise Men & Motors still existed! When it disappeared off Freeview I thought it had died.
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 15:38 (Ref:2625057)   #643
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Is there going to be more races to fill the extra time allocated to BTCC, or will it be just pointless filler items and inane chatter.

Expect the amount of advert breaks to increase as ITV struggle to get advertisers.
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Anyone fancy doing an updated table of the various confirmed/probable/likely/unlikely/dreaming rumoured entries? (I'm far too lazy to trawl through the thread and do it myself - I figure someone else must be bored enough to do it )
I did one last week, but it seems to have disappeared

Don't think I dreamt it....
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Old 2 Feb 2010, 16:30 (Ref:2625095)   #645
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Also I didn't realise Men & Motors still existed! When it disappeared off Freeview I thought it had died.
Nope - it's a legacy of ITV Digital, but it's still going - it's on Freesat. I wouldn't say it's a particularly interesting channel, to be honest.

Bearing in mind some of Saturday's races are recorded, is there any reason they couldn't show qualifying, either live or delayed?
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