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Old 16 Feb 2016, 17:42 (Ref:3615171)   #1456
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Yes, it is amazing how F1 teams have harnessed technology, and how they have used it to enhance outside industries and services. However, they need to tell our government (the UK's) how to use modern communication methods. Within the last 5 years they cancelled a new IT system that was supposed to connect all our hospitals and medical practices together (those paid for by the state) to make the availabilty of medical records seemleess. That cost 15 billion, all down the drain. As it is now, a doctor in one hospital cannot see what has happened to a patient just 5 miles down the road!

But back to F1. Is the racing for the benefit of the teams, or is it to entertain viewers and spectators? If it's the latter, then as a generalisation, then the public are not interested in how quickly the data generated by a sensor on a racing car gets from Outer Mongolia to the lead-lined concrete bunker at Milton Keynes. They want to see how fast the car can go, and whether it can beat the other team mate's car as well as the rest of the field.

We seem to be edging closer and closer to a time when F1 will no longer need drivers in the cars; there is getting to be enough electronic wizardry in the cars that will make the driver redundant. And that is not something that I look forward to reading about.
The regulations are already in such a way that drivers will be needed.
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Old 16 Feb 2016, 18:57 (Ref:3615202)   #1457
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He reminisces that in 1974...
I will try to listen to that later today. I always like "back in the day" stories. To the comment of a headcount of 34 people. Even putting the PSU and other "complexities" aside, there is no way anyone could run an F1 team today with only 34 people if you factor in everything to design, construct and race a modern F1 car. I am curious as to the size of even some of the small race car manufactures like a Ginetta, Elan or maybe even someone a bit bigger like a Riley. What is their "total" headcount.

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I don't long for the old days, but I do hanker for a simpler form of racing, one that does not need 400 bods to keep just two cars on a track for just two hours every two to three weeks
I do think there could be ways to keep it technical and entertaining without a large army of people. But it would have to be something a bit different than today. It would be interesting to see what it would look like with budget caps that keeps the manpower to a minimum.

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real time data acquisition and analytics might just be the most important and real world relevant work F1 is doing right now. i think its scope should be expanded not limited.
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Old 16 Feb 2016, 20:03 (Ref:3615232)   #1458
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But back to F1. Is the racing for the benefit of the teams, or is it to entertain viewers and spectators? If it's the latter, then as a generalisation, then the public are not interested in how quickly the data generated by a sensor on a racing car gets from Outer Mongolia to the lead-lined concrete bunker at Milton Keynes. They want to see how fast the car can go, and whether it can beat the other team mate's car as well as the rest of the field.
that would be a great poll question for one of those fan surveys they love so much...which aspect of F1's technology is most appealing: Engine development, aero efficiency, CFD design, driver fitness & nutrition, data acquisition etc.

i suspect engine tech would still top the list by a great margin though. data acquisition would be low but i think it will grow over time. this is after all the cell phone generation and telecommunications is becoming the language of our times.

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I do think there could be ways to keep it technical and entertaining without a large army of people. But it would have to be something a bit different than today. It would be interesting to see what it would look like with budget caps that keeps the manpower to a minimum.
just spit balling ideas but in the future i would like to see more control being handed over to the driver while not sacrificing the forward strides F1 makes in technology. rather we should expect more from drivers within the cockpit as time goes on not less.

its been suggested before in the closed cockpits thread, but adding the canopy allows for the opportunity to develop smart windshields, tactical displays, and HUD systems.

instead of a driver asking for data from the pitwall, the raw data would be provided on their HUD and the driver would have to be able to process and use that data on their own while driving. if one tire is over heating then the driver will know about it in real time and have to adjust based on their own ability to correlate the data, they want to know their split times, fuel consumption etc etc.

budget wise its a new area of expense while not necessarily eliminating any track side positions (probably adding to the size of the team actually so bad on that front) and its years if not decades down the road but i think there is something to this idea that makes being a driver both more complex while adding a level of modern interest to the role.

on the surface it seems to satisfy the need for the driver to be the central figure.
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 07:00 (Ref:3616948)   #1459
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This is as good a place as any for Bernie's latest rant - "F1 is the worst it has ever been."

http://www.f1reader.com/news/ecclest...squs_container

We will see ...Beyond rubbish solutions!
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 07:12 (Ref:3616949)   #1460
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So, the desiccated little garden gnome thinks fiddling with the grid will fix the problems of F1. I will let history be the judge of that.
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 11:33 (Ref:3616992)   #1461
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BCE obviously wants something changing or to be done. Horner, who is at the last saloon meeting today between the teams, the FIA and FOM to try to sort out the new rules for 2017, is suggesting that Mr E is proposing to reverse the top ten qualifiers for the start to inject greater interest. I wonder what he wants that he will get instead.
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 12:24 (Ref:3617001)   #1462
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It all sounds like BE wind up to me as I am sure he likes to have a bit of fun and get the tongues wagging.
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 14:18 (Ref:3617016)   #1463
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He said he wouldn't pay to bring his family to watch a Grand Prix. Well neither would a lot of us, because the prices are sky high!
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Old 23 Feb 2016, 15:39 (Ref:3617026)   #1464
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He said he wouldn't pay to bring his family to watch a Grand Prix. Well neither would a lot of us, because the prices are sky high!
yep!

no doubt he is up to his old tricks, spouting loudly in order to generate F1 headlines and/or push his agenda, but even though he doesnt go into details as to why this is the case, it is hard to argue with the truth of his comments.

also he has started up a nice little back and forth between the main title protagonists which sets up the Merc vs Ferrari story line which we all hope comes to fruition this year.

all in all a nice bit of promoting.
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so, uhm, seems interesting?
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Why fiddle with it? I actually like qually as it is
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Why change it? The currant format works very well and is not lacking in entertainment value.
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cant say i find the current format entertaining at all.

really need a lot more details but it sounds confusing and exciting at the same time. i feel like we will get a lot of mixed up grids as a result so thats something that could upset the Merc apple cart.

that they agreed to anything unanimously might be the best part of it though lol.
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But its a spectacle seeing the last 10 cars out in Q3. We will end up with just 2 ??
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So, Bernie floated the reverse grid idea to get this! Why, oh why, do they or is it just he, keep on trying to reinvent the wheel?
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