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Old 26 Feb 2004, 11:33 (Ref:886122)   #1
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Hello to all,
This is my second year of marshalling(hoping to get remainder of signatures to upgrade to course this year), anyway I thought I would call on all you lot who have far more experience than me and ask what things you always have in your kit bag when attending meetings
Have got the normal things i.e waterproofs, baseball cap , but what other things have you learnt to take with you over the years that you wouldn't be without

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 11:53 (Ref:886140)   #2
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Add suntan cream, woolly hat, gauntlets or equivalent and plenty of food and drink.



PS some marshals also pack a cuddly toy as well!


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Old 26 Feb 2004, 11:55 (Ref:886141)   #3
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I actually asked this question a while back and did a series of articles on it. However, the website that they were published on has seen fit to put them into a "members area" which can't be publically accessed.

I'll see if I can dig them out and upload them to marshalspost.com
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:02 (Ref:886145)   #4
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Aha - found it - reproduced below. This was kind of aimed at first timers, but hopefully it will be of some use!

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So, you've got your Probans, your Boots, your Gloves, your raingear, your Understuff and your First Aid Kit. You're good to go right? Well yes, but there are some other things that aren't strictly on the kit list that are very useful to have. Here's a list of some of the other things that are handy to have around!

Water
Never ever go out on post without a good supply of water. You can get dehydrated even on the coldest and wettest of days. If you get too dehydrated, you'll faint. Then the Rescue Crew will arrive, snigger at you and stick a big needle in your arm.

Snack
Ideally you should always have your lunch with you on post but we know that doesn't always happen. Always keep some fruit (or a chocolate bar) and a small, salty snack like crisps or peanuts, with you. The fruit sugar and the carbohydrates in the crisps/peanuts will help keep your blood sugar level. The salt in your snack will also help with combatting dehydration (obviously, if you have special dietary requirements, then ignore anything in here that you're not allowed to have!!!).
It is generally considered a bad idea to overdose on crisps, chocolate and fizzy drinks.....and the less said about pork pies the better!

Whistle
When you get in trouble and you don't know what to do, give a little whistle....Well it won't get you Jiminy Cricket, but it will get the attention of other marshals. A whistle is a vital piece of kit. You can scream your head off at someone across the track, but they won't hear you. Blow a whistle and you'll get their attention. Don't forget, the whistle is not just to bring attention if you need assistance - it's also to let other marshals know they're in danger. Get a decent referee type whistle. These mostly come with a neck lanyard, but this isn't ideal. If you must get a round the neck one, then make sure it has a breakable tab so that if it DOES get caught in a driver's wheel, it's not going to tighten and throttle you! Alternatively, just attach your whistle on a plastic "bungee" cord to your overall zip.

Safety Glasses
You can pick these up at any hardware or DIY store for about €5. They are a wise investment. Even if you wear glasses ordinarily, you can still be hit by bits of flying gravel so it's a very good idea to have these in your bag.

Ear Defenders
Again you can pick these up at any hardware or DIY store for about €5. Not so necessary for the standard Irish classes - although they can be pretty loud - but absolutely essential for events like the FIA Sportscars.

Suntan Lotion
No I'm not joking! Even on cloudy days, you'd be surprised how quickly you can burn if you're out all day. At the end of the day, you'll find people wandering around saying "I have Track face". Track Face is a combination of sunburn, rainburn and waterburn. Always bring suntan lotion. Even handier are the new suntan wipes that you can buy - much easier, particularly if you have dirty hands and don't want to wipe dirt all over your face!

Moisturiser/Hand Cream
Another protector from the dreaded "Track Face"! Even if there isn't a trace of sun, wind and rain can still make you feel like you've got burned. A good moisturiser with built in UV protection is a good solution. For all you boys out there, it's not a "girly" thing - you'll find that Nivea produce a very good moisturiser for men! Hand Cream is also useful - I use Atrixo myself, but any good handcream product will do.

Insect Repellent
Some time around May, you will meet the gnats who live in the tyre walls. They're annoying and breathing them in can be very unpleasant. Sweat attracts them particularly and they do seem to have a fondness for the smell of damp Proban as well. A spray of repellent around the hat works wonders!

Deodorant
A personal one this - but remember, if it gets hot and you're going to be running around, no matter WHAT the Sure adverts tell you, you're going to sweat. No-one will mind much if you're a bit sweaty - but if you're the sort of person that is bothered by this, it's probably worth investing in a spare can of deodorant or possibly deodorant wipes.

Multitool
You will almost never see a marshal without one of these. Choose one that's sturdy and has a scissorlike cutting device for things like cutting seatbelts. A word of advice - don't spend a fortune on something like a Leatherman. Tools can get damaged or lost and you will get just as much use out of a €20 version from Millets as you will with a hand-crafted, gold-plated article from Switzerland!

Torch
But it's not dark.....Well that's what I said when I asked a member of Rescue why they always carried a torch on their belt. As always there was method in the apparent madness. When a driver is sitting in a tight single-seater complaining they can't move their feet, it's going to be too dark to see if there's a problem - that's where your torch comes in...!

Tissues
Even if your runny nose doesn't bother you, spare a thought for the members of your crew who really don't want to watch you leaving snail trails on the arm of your probans...!

Dustmask
Anyone who's ever done a Rallycross on a dry circuit will tell you that this little item can make your life a whole lot more pleasant! Nothing fancy needed - you can pick up packs of these at any DIY store.

Plastic Sack
There is no such thing as a waterproof kitbag. Trust me on this - I've tried every combination of bag type and I've still ended up with soggy sandwiches. The only method that has ever worked for keeping my bag dry is to put it in a nice, big binbag. Works pretty well!

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:04 (Ref:886148)   #5
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On the more unusual side, I pack some headache pills, anti-histamine cream, spare boot-laces, several wheelie-bin sized bin liners and a paperback.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:18 (Ref:886166)   #6
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Pens and pencils are useful for writing with! Pencils are a must if you haven't got a specialised clipboard with a rain hood (or even a clear plastic bag). You can always write on wet paper with a pencil.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:28 (Ref:886176)   #7
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Pens and pencils are useful for writing with! Pencils are a must if you haven't got a specialised clipboard with a rain hood (or even a clear plastic bag). You can always write on wet paper with a pencil.
Good idea. I usually carry a ball-point, a permanent marker and a propelling pencil with a softish lead (2B) in. I've found that HB lead can rip the soggy paper you are trying to write on!. Oh and if you do Startline, some yellow chalk for augmenting the grid markings.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:35 (Ref:886189)   #8
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And of course I always take my broomstick!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:40 (Ref:886196)   #9
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I think i saw your black cat the other day too!!!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:41 (Ref:886201)   #10
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A pair of binoculars for checking the totty on those hot summer days.......er sorry I mean for a closer look at any incident that may occur at a post near you!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:49 (Ref:886215)   #11
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I think i saw your black cat the other day too!!!
Wasn't mine - we have dispensed with convention - our cat's white!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:50 (Ref:886217)   #12
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A pair of binoculars for checking the totty on those hot summer days.......er sorry I mean for a closer look at any incident that may occur at a post near you!
Observer I am sure you told me they were for Bird watching!

I recomend ear defenders. Great for the big beasts, saves damaging the ear, and if you have a marshall that will not shut up then great for that.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:57 (Ref:886227)   #13
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I always have a small tin with, headache tablets, Rennie's, and throat sweets in it.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 13:09 (Ref:886239)   #14
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If your a startline marshal, a hi-lighter pen is quite useful so you can see at a glance which cars are yours, when looking at a grid sheet of 32 cars.

Spare pair of socks also useful, nothing worse than driving home with either very hot smelly or slightly soggy socks. You can also change your socks when you feet are getting cold and wet, amazing how much that can improve your mood during the day.

A folding chair is possibly not going to fit in a kit bag, but it is nice, if you only have a 20min lunchbreak and are miles from the paddock, to be able to sit in comfort with feet elevated on the armco instead of making do with sitting on the armco/tyrewall/groud/observers box. It gives your feet a rest from standing up all day.

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 13:29 (Ref:886259)   #15
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I recomend ear defenders. Great for the big beasts, saves damaging the ear, and if you have a marshall that will not shut up then great for that.
You on about Kaybee again Andy?
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 13:29 (Ref:886260)   #16
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Thanks for the replies, some useful info has given me some more bits to get to stick in my kit bag

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 13:50 (Ref:886280)   #17
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Just a comment on EP's excellent article - in the UK whistles are only used by observers.

I prefer ear plugs to ear defenders; mine are not Kaybee-proof, which is why, given the choice, I don't ever work on the same post as her!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 17:16 (Ref:886462)   #18
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Howard,

By now, you might be thinking of buying a larger bag!!

Don't over do it.

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Duct tape!!!

Don't laugh -- it's good for: fixing your glasses, sticking hangy bits back on sedans so they don't lose ALL their bodywork while on the tow, padding fence holes so you don't lacerate your arm or overalls flagging out of it, taping the schedule or a grid list onto the barrier for the flaggers, the list goes ON.

Oh yes, and for confusing foreign marshals: After hearing us talk about duct tape for the edges of flagging holes over the headset in Rio, the Brazilian marshals approached one of ours asking, "Why for you tape ducks?"

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have just upset the wife trying to see if I can shoe horn the kitchen sink into my sports bag, must remember to take the washing up out beforehand next time!

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make sure your whistle is a fox fourty, nothing else will do,
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Colour coordinated of course!!
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I always take a plastic carry-a-bag. There great for when you put your water proof trousers on. Just slip the bag over your boot and then when you put your boot into your waterproofs it slips in a treat and saves dancing on one leg. Sorry it does not work when you take them off but you normally do not need to take them off in as much of a hurry as when you put them on. I find that a fishermans box is best for your kit as it is water proof and has its own seat. The problem is that they are a bit on the large size. I also treated myself to a pair of waterproof gortex sock from the army stores. They were £30 but I have never had wet feet.
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When doing the banks I allways take a folding chair with me. Could be my age!
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Oh and if you do Rallycross on a dry day , dont forget a dust mask , ask anyone from Ireland who has marshalled Delta 5 at Mondello Park
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