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Old 29 Jul 2019, 13:18 (Ref:3920223)   #241
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maybe in the future 2 Turkingtons on the BTCC grid ?
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Old 29 Jul 2019, 22:17 (Ref:3920313)   #242
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This may be a slightly controversial post, but I'm actually going to talk about the racing from the weekend (if that's actually allowed in this thread of course...)

2 decent races, interesting to see Lewis Kent struggle a little, and the parity between the TCR and NGTC cars seems to be creating some really interesting battles. Looking good for James Turkington now, a pair of second place finishes at Donington could secure him the title, depending on where they both qualify anyway. Could we see a Turkington claim both the BTCC and TCR UK titles in the same year?
There's a novelty. The word "racing" in a TCR thread. Not something I'd expected... might have to have a look at the footage...
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Old 29 Jul 2019, 22:45 (Ref:3920319)   #243
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This may be a slightly controversial post, but I'm actually going to talk about the racing from the weekend (if that's actually allowed in this thread of course...)

2 decent races, interesting to see Lewis Kent struggle a little, and the parity between the TCR and NGTC cars seems to be creating some really interesting battles. Looking good for James Turkington now, a pair of second place finishes at Donington could secure him the title, depending on where they both qualify anyway. Could we see a Turkington claim both the BTCC and TCR UK titles in the same year?
What races were you watching?

I was at Brands Hatch on Sunday and the TCR 'races' I saw were, predictably, awful. I'm sure anyone who was watching the livestream would agree with me.

Thankfully Formula Ford, Fiestas (senior) and Civic Cup saved the day.
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Old 30 Jul 2019, 14:42 (Ref:3920407)   #244
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What races were you watching?

I was at Brands Hatch on Sunday and the TCR 'races' I saw were, predictably, awful. I'm sure anyone who was watching the livestream would agree with me.

Thankfully Formula Ford, Fiestas (senior) and Civic Cup saved the day.
I was watching the races where, in race 1, 3 different drivers led at one points, the championship leader gained several positions from the back of the grid, only to fall back again in the closing stages, losing a position at the very last corner and also losing the championship lead.

Then, in the second of these "awful" races, I saw the very same driver put in a fantastic drive, pulling off some genuinely strong overtakes, and then engage in a great battle with Henry Neal for second place, with Neal putting in an equally strong defensive drive to hold on to the position. We now have a championship that is likely to go down to the final race of the season, which, regardless of how many cars are involved, will still be an intriguing showdown between two drivers trying to make a name for themselves in Touring Car racing

Were they the most exciting races I've ever witnessed? No. Were they the worst races I've seen? Far from it! In fact, they were far from the least entertaining races that day.

If you don't enjoy it, fair enough, but I no longer see the point in endlessly bad mouthing a series that you clearly don't want to watch anymore anyway. I am not a particularly big fan of formula one, but I don't feel the need to log into an online forum after every race to tell the world how crap it was!
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Old 14 Oct 2019, 14:57 (Ref:3934373)   #245
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https://www.team-hard.com/three-pron...in-tct-finale/

Team HARD enter 3 NGTC VWs.

Yes, I had forgotten about this series too!
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Old 14 Oct 2019, 16:27 (Ref:3934393)   #246
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I just think everyone outside of the series gave up on it tbh
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 07:08 (Ref:3934547)   #247
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I'm surprised they're allowed to enter current cars.

Gow should be fuming.
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 07:34 (Ref:3934558)   #248
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I'm surprised they're allowed to enter current cars.

Gow should be fuming.
BTCC regulations stipulate that cars become ineligible for use if they are used in another championship during the same calendar year.
So, the VW's will be barred from participating in the BTCC for the rest of 2019 once they've been used in this championship.

I wonder if that regulation will be reviewed for 2020?
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 07:39 (Ref:3934561)   #249
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BTCC regulations stipulate that cars become ineligible for use if they are used in another championship during the same calendar year.

So, the VW's will be barred from participating in the BTCC for the rest of 2019 once they've been used in this championship.



I wonder if that regulation will be reviewed for 2020?
Can't see this in the regs, how does this bit actually read?

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Old 15 Oct 2019, 08:15 (Ref:3934571)   #250
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Can't see this in the regs, how does this bit actually read?

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Found it... calendar year bit is key

"Any car that has competed or been utilised in any competition other than the Championship is ineligible to compete in the Championship within the same calendar year. "

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Old 15 Oct 2019, 08:16 (Ref:3934572)   #251
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Can't see this in the regs, how does this bit actually read?
6.11.1a should cover it :
"For the avoidance of doubt any testing or competing by any registered driver, team or entrant of any kind whatsoever and regardless of the type of vehicle cannot be undertaken at a venue using a circuit configuration which largely consists of that which is used at a Meeting of the 2019 Championship until after that Meeting, unless with the specific written authorisation of the Administrator."

I don't see any reason for BTCC to change the regs for next year. The season is over, what does it matter where you race the cars now.

Apparently, TCT changes their rules last week to allow current-spec NGTC cars, although that seemed to have been kept quiet until now. TCT website still has the pre-season draft regs, so don't bother to check there.
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 09:32 (Ref:3934588)   #252
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BTCC regulations stipulate that cars become ineligible for use if they are used in another championship during the same calendar year.
So, the VW's will be barred from participating in the BTCC for the rest of 2019 once they've been used in this championship.

I wonder if that regulation will be reviewed for 2020?
I'm not sure why Gow should be fuming? That regulation is there to stop teams entering other series to get additional testing miles under their belts at BTCC circuits (if the TCT started at Snetterton for example the BTCC teams could otherwise enter that round and hone their setups ahead of the BTCC round at Snetterton). It's just a regulation to stop in season testing - so HARD running in the TCT after the BTCC season has finished is no drama.

There's a chance that the HARD cars will be a third of the grid for the TCT round. I suppose it'll be their biggest grid of the season?
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Old 16 Oct 2019, 11:12 (Ref:3934911)   #253
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A few more extra cars out this time. Adam Morgan in a Cupra, Richard Woods in the ex btcc Focus with a wtcc engined Focus, Bradley Burns in a Subaru and Stewart Lines in a PMR Astra.
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So that lifts the grid to 12 for the final round - what are the chances on this championship being back next year?
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Old 16 Oct 2019, 17:12 (Ref:3934992)   #255
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So that lifts the grid to 12 for the final round - what are the chances on this championship being back next year?
5 of those are BTCC cars though so I don't think would be allowed when the series has started? I'd say chances are slim; Lines is wanting to run a TCR Europe program next year which says how much confidence he has in is own series!
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