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19 Jun 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3831840)
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The only reality check is that a guy with 3 crew and a trailer can run in the top 5 doesn't say much for the professionalism and competitiveness of the series at all. It's just like GT3 but slower and more boring.
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How awful. A set of regulations where the little guy has a chance against the bigger teams.
What a ridiculous view of motor racing
A series isn't unprofessional just because the little guys have a chance of doing well.
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19 Jun 2018, 09:56 (Ref:3831844)
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Actually it means even a professional race team can't make a difference because there is so little you can do to the cars, so why don't we run it like the Toyota 86 series?
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19 Jun 2018, 10:19 (Ref:3831848)
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I think it says more about the affordability and user-friendliness of the ruleset.
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19 Jun 2018, 11:03 (Ref:3831854)
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I think it says more about the affordability and user-friendliness of the ruleset.
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Unfortunately you can I have different definitions of affordability. To me these are production cars which are 2 or 3 times the price they should be to buy.
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19 Jun 2018, 11:04 (Ref:3831855)
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Unfortunately you can I have different definitions of affordability. To me these are production cars which are 2 or 3 times the price they should be to buy.
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Remarkably similar to the 86 series then..... 
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19 Jun 2018, 13:29 (Ref:3831883)
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Unfortunately you can I have different definitions of affordability. To me these are production cars which are 2 or 3 times the price they should be to buy.
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They're not production cars, in the way that we have them here in the APCC, or the 86s, or the Excels, Pulsars, etc.
Maybe you need to have a closer look at them, and see all the racecar bits they have.
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19 Jun 2018, 14:48 (Ref:3831898)
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I feel there are a lot of people scratching for reasons not to like them.
Perhaps as they did when Group A came to be or was in the 'pre-happening' stage?
Time will tell if it is a bit of a NIMBY approach.
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19 Jun 2018, 14:58 (Ref:3831901)
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I feel there are a lot of people scratching for reasons not to like them.
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It's funny because I have been downloading and watching the races long before it was talked about on here. I drive a Golf and I like the class, but people are barking up the wrong tree if they think this is ever going to be anything significant in Australia.
These would be an entertaining class running around with the GTs, BUT I fail to see why anybody would spend Carrera Cup money to go so slow, and be in such an uninspiring vehicle, especially when the VAG makes are all the same bits, running in 4 different body shells. Hyundai and Kia will do the same thing, without a doubt.
They may have nice race car bits but they are still droning 4-pot bum draggers, none of which makes for spectacular racing.
If the manufacturers wanted a fleet of these things racing against each other in their names, they could easily do it, but they are instead profiteering on it.
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20 Jun 2018, 00:33 (Ref:3831992)
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He's running up against factory-assisted teams, such as WRT who won the Bathurst 12hr this year. I'm guessing they also tow their fleet of cars behind high-milage vans, and sleep in half-day rate motels.
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The only reality check is that a guy with 3 crew and a trailer can run in the top 5 doesn't say much for the professionalism and competitiveness of the series at all. It's just like GT3 but slower and more boring.
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And another reality check
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20 Jun 2018, 00:39 (Ref:3831993)
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Whilst we know what the cars are based on overseas experience / material, we don't have anything concrete at this point on who'll be running the series, where it will be running (I suspect Shannons Nationals but let's see what comes) or what brands / teams are likely or confirmed to be taking part.
In my view, until those things at least are known, it's pretty hard to form any meaningful opinion on where it might sit in the overall Oz circuit racing landscape.
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20 Jun 2018, 00:41 (Ref:3831994)
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It may not get off the ground here at all. I won't lose any sleep over it.
If it does, great.
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20 Jun 2018, 04:54 (Ref:3832010)
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It may not get off the ground here at all. I won't lose any sleep over it.
If it does, great.
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I hope its exciting as the Truck/Ute series. ! 
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20 Jun 2018, 05:06 (Ref:3832014)
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If it falls over, at least they'll be able to offload a TCR car to another series 
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20 Jun 2018, 05:07 (Ref:3832015)
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Maybe Paul Pickett could run the i30n out of his "shop"
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20 Jun 2018, 06:04 (Ref:3832020)
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I hope its exciting as the Truck/Ute series. ! |
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