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Old 14 Jul 2019, 16:11 (Ref:3917606)   #16
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It's just to easy to bash Silverstone as a flat airfield circuit. Personally, having been there many times, albeit more often for sportscar races than F1, I still love it and it's still a better spectator circuit than most give it credit for. But oh for that bridge or underpass from the outside to the inside on the main straight......
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Old 14 Jul 2019, 16:46 (Ref:3917622)   #17
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But oh for that bridge or underpass from the outside to the inside on the main straight......
The new hotel being built opposite The Wing will, according to the chatter on the Sky F1 coverage, include such a bridge, but it wasn't clear whether this would be for general spectator use or just for hotel guests to get to hospitality in The Wing. If the latter, that would be a very poor decision which would irritate many.
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Old 14 Jul 2019, 22:09 (Ref:3917708)   #18
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Is it? How so? The history and crowd for sure. The circuit itself ... I can't see that personally. It's an industrial estate. The Beckett's esses are awesome ... the rest not so much.

Happy to hear your arguments to the contrary!
I’d have left the circuit as it was in tune ‘80s, but either version is ace. Good for racing and fast.

Oh and driving through Copse, Stowe, Maggots, etc... is ace.
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 08:10 (Ref:3917762)   #20
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Is it? How so? The history and crowd for sure. The circuit itself ... I can't see that personally. It's an industrial estate. The Beckett's esses are awesome ... the rest not so much.

Happy to hear your arguments to the contrary!
Watch yesterday's race. That's my argument to the contrary.
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 09:19 (Ref:3917778)   #21
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Nice flowing circuit, great battles, huge crowds, need I go on?
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 09:59 (Ref:3917793)   #22
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I'm very pleased we're going to have at least another 5 GPs at Silverstone. It's a mammoth event and I'm happy to be a tiny part of it, considering all the wet windy meetings I do where there's only two people spectating, seeing the place alive and jumping is a great thing.

One of my marshal colleagues brought a friend with him as his guest this year, who'd watched for years on TV but had never been. He did loads of walking and exploring on Friday and Saturday, then on Saturday night we told him to try to get his chair on the bank at the end of the Maggotts/Becketts sequence for Sunday.

He did.

When he came back to the campsite, he was completely blown away. I'll paraphrase: "the F3 cars looked quick, then the F2 cars were quicker, then there were loads of Porsches wobbling all over the shop, and then the F1 cars came out... even the slow ones were mind-blowingly quick through there. The direction changes are awesome!"

He said it was one of the most amazing experiences, and was thankful for the advice. I think we might have a new enthusiast
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Good news! And good to hear people enjoying the spectacle. As I said before, it's far too easy to be glass half empty about.... well just about everything these days!
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Good news! And good to hear people enjoying the spectacle. As I said before, it's far too easy to be glass half empty about.... well just about everything these days!
Most people need quite a top up to get to half empty.
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Is it? How so? The history and crowd for sure. The circuit itself ... I can't see that personally. It's an industrial estate. The Beckett's esses are awesome ... the rest not so much.

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Okay well watch the race, look at the huge crowds, feel the excitement ..
The track has a beautiful flow, some very fast corners, iconic race track ..produces some super racing ..

That’s enough isn’t it to keep you happy ?
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Okay well watch the race, look at the huge crowds, feel the excitement ..
The track has a beautiful flow, some very fast corners, iconic race track ..produces some super racing ..

That’s enough isn’t it to keep you happy ?
I never said I wasn't happy :-)

Silverstone puts on a great event every year. The crowd is amazing, it's really well organised, a terrific occasion.

I was at the track on Friday and watched one of the practice sessions from Becketts - it's awesome, the speed is just astonishing, it's a world-class section of track.

It was also a good race, with some decent action.

All in all it's absolutely right that Silverstone keeps its place on the calendar. Any other decision would have been a disgrace to the sport.

My specific challenge was to the claim that Silverstone is "a special place". I don't agree with that. I think it puts on a special event each year. I think it has some special sections. But the place is ugly, it's an undustrial estate. Spa is a special place. Monza is a special place. Laguna Saca is a special place. Silverstone is not, but it does put on a special event each year and I'm delighted it has stayed on the calendar.
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It hosted the first ever WC race. That's got to be special
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My understanding is that Suzuka is also nestled in an industrialised area but said industry is related to auto manufacturing. Like Silverstone, the track is adjacent to industries which compliment the sports that take place at the nearby track...the motorsports equivalent of farm to table if you will.

I find this a very special relationship, special place.
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My understanding is that Suzuka is also nestled in an industrialised area but said industry is related to auto manufacturing. Like Silverstone, the track is adjacent to industries which compliment the sports that take place at the nearby track...the motorsports equivalent of farm to table if you will.

I find this a very special relationship, special place.

The similarity between Silverstone and Suzuka is that they are actually surrounded by mainly farmland. However, Silverstone is now becoming an industrial estate which happens to have a racing circuit inside it, whilst Suzuka is, in the main, a motor racing themed entertainment attraction.

It is true to say that not far from both there is car manufacturing (at the time of writing) with BMW's Mini production to the south west and Toyota to the north of Silverstone, whilst if memory serves me well, Toyota city is not far north of Suzuka.

The main difference between the two tracks is that Silverstone is flat (and always seems to be windy) whilst Suzuka has an undulating track. In addition, from a personal perspective, I would far rather spectate at Suzuka where, at least when I visited, you could get far nearer the action on the whole and where the viewing was far better for those that didn't want to pay a fortune for the privilege of sitting in a grandstand.
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I plan to go to Suzuka in 2020 for the 10 Hours so I’ll get to make the comparison now.

My perception is heavily influenced by how photogenic circuits are (see my signature below!). Nürburgring, Spa, Laguna Seca etc thus stand out. So does Brands Hatch. The USA seems to have an awesome collection of distinctive and pretty tracks. UK circuits less so and Silverstone least of all. But I recognise that this is a particular bias of mine, unrelated to the pure quality of the racing produced.

Silverstone is in this sense the inverse of Paul Ricard, which is a highly photogenic track in a beautiful setting which produces largely dull racing. I am not so fixated on my photos that I don’t recognise the primary importance of the track action.

My final point here is that my grumpiness with Silverstone is how smaller events are treated - none of the good grandstands open, circuit closed on Fridays etc. None of this applies to the GP.
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