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Old 17 Jul 2019, 11:15 (Ref:3918124)   #31
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The way I read it was that they chose to run on old tyres (presumably to get their eye in again) before running new tyres today?
I agree now that I've gone to his actual FB page and read it rather than the article I read. Sounds like they ran out of time to do a fresh rubber run rather than they didn't have the tyres to start with.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 11:20 (Ref:3918125)   #32
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Well, ground effect is in simple terms a much more efficient way of creating downforce. That in itself won’t make a difference to the racing if its not accompanied by a massive reduction in upper surface aero dependence.

My fear is that they will incorporate this change, but they wont go far enough with the upper surface cull, so what we will be left with is maybe a slightly less bad version of what we have currently.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 11:22 (Ref:3918126)   #33
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I wonder how disappointed Moffat is at the pace of the Q50. Maybe tomorrow will be more indicative. But it doesn't look great as a straight out of the box package.
https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...netterton-test

Aiden Moffat made his debut in the revamped Infiniti, which the Laser Tools Racing squad will run for the remainder of the year.
The car currently lacks a proper ducting system to deliver power to the turbo, but the outfit says this will be corrected for the next race meeting at Snetterton on August 4-5.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 11:47 (Ref:3918131)   #34
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Well, ground effect is in simple terms a much more efficient way of creating downforce. That in itself won’t make a difference to the racing if its not accompanied by a massive reduction in upper surface aero dependence.

My fear is that they will incorporate this change, but they wont go far enough with the upper surface cull, so what we will be left with is maybe a slightly less bad version of what we have currently.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 17:18 (Ref:3918200)   #35
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Ollie Jackson quickest today, Rob Austin quickest in final session, Tom Chilton quickest over both days.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 18:31 (Ref:3918211)   #36
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https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...netterton-test

Aiden Moffat made his debut in the revamped Infiniti, which the Laser Tools Racing squad will run for the remainder of the year.
The car currently lacks a proper ducting system to deliver power to the turbo, but the outfit says this will be corrected for the next race meeting at Snetterton on August 4-5.
So a gentle test to see what's what and get an idea on handling. Wonder how long ago they decided to switch at the season mid point? I know they'd offered rides in TCT in the Infiniti but clearly nobody bit...
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 21:37 (Ref:3918228)   #37
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Ollie Jackson quickest today, Rob Austin quickest in final session, Tom Chilton quickest over both days.
Rob Austin quickest. Strange how he is always quick
At tests / media days but never when it matters. No weight ,
Loads of Boost is my bet..../. The trouble is he makes the regulars
Look like w&nkers
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 21:54 (Ref:3918230)   #38
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Rob Austin quickest. Strange how he is always quick
At tests / media days but never when it matters. No weight ,
Loads of Boost is my bet..../. The trouble is he makes the regulars
Look like w&nkers

Late in the day as well... Almost like he was given a boost to help get a sponsor on board by topping the times...
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 22:09 (Ref:3918233)   #39
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Late in the day as well... Almost like he was given a boost to help get a sponsor on board by topping the times...
he doesnt need to be given anything. it’s just a test and the cars arent checked by toca so the teams can run however they want.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 22:21 (Ref:3918235)   #40
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he doesnt need to be given anything. it’s just a test and the cars arent checked by toca so the teams can run however they want.

Sorry Alan Gow, I forgot how "black and white" you see things so ill correct my tongue in cheek comment to suit you:

"They had got some decent running it but maybe left it until late in the day to turn the car up to a level they may not have got away with in race weekend conditions in order to get on top to impress a potential sponsor, because as already suggested its strange they always manage to top these type sessions but they are never there when it matters"
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 22:35 (Ref:3918239)   #41
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Rob Austin quickest. Strange how he is always quick
At tests / media days but never when it matters. No weight ,
Loads of Boost is my bet..../. The trouble is he makes the regulars
Look like w&nkers
Look at all the times, not just the headlines. Austin put in 2 quick laps 10 mins before the end of the day. Those times were nearly a second quicker than he had done during the rest of the session.

But as most people won't look further that 'Rob Austin quickest', looks like job done.
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 23:04 (Ref:3918240)   #42
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https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...netterton-test

Aiden Moffat made his debut in the revamped Infiniti, which the Laser Tools Racing squad will run for the remainder of the year.
The car currently lacks a proper ducting system to deliver power to the turbo, but the outfit says this will be corrected for the next race meeting at Snetterton on August 4-5.
Shame they write utter rubbish on Autosport. I've never read such a bad summary of a problem..... "Power to the turbo" WTF. It's either ****ing exhaust gasses past the compressor/waste gate is open all the time or the pre/post intercooler ducting is crap and not providing enough air to compress.

Power to the turbo
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Old 17 Jul 2019, 23:33 (Ref:3918245)   #43
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Late in the day as well... Almost like he was given a boost to help get a sponsor on board by topping the times...
we all remember how Motorbase suddenly were fast despite missing first season half a few years ago....
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Old 18 Jul 2019, 07:43 (Ref:3918285)   #44
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Yes, but Motorbase had Fat Jackson, who is a bona fide good driver. And the Focus was a tidy motor.

Not really any comparison I think?

This may be a stupid question - could Handy/ Austin have run the car with a mother load of boost(i.e. more than they are allowed) because there is no or little scrutineeering at the test?
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Old 18 Jul 2019, 07:49 (Ref:3918287)   #45
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Shame they write utter rubbish on Autosport. I've never read such a bad summary of a problem..... "Power to the turbo" WTF. It's either ****ing exhaust gasses past the compressor/waste gate is open all the time or the pre/post intercooler ducting is crap and not providing enough air to compress.

Power to the turbo
The latter. Remember this car was originally engineered by a team with little budget and in my opinion little talent... I imagine Laser improved many things before the car turned a wheel. Now it has they've probably got another big to do list.

I'd like to see them do well personally.
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