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14 Jan 2005, 20:16 (Ref:1201146)
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Lap times, 05 vs 04
Sauber may not be the best example since they have switched to Michelin for 2005. However Massas's first run was impressive. He set a fast lap time at Valencia, of 1:12.080, which is about 1 second slower than last year. Speculation with the new rules had most people guessing 2, 3 secs slower .. maybe more. Of course tyres (and the 1 tyre rule) will also play a role but the F1 engineering ingenuity may surprise (once again). Lap times may not be that much different, at least in short stints. Overall, speed is bound to fall off as tyres wear. After a small taste of testing, what do you think? How much slower will the average car be this year? I am going to stick with 3 seconds.
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14 Jan 2005, 20:18 (Ref:1201148)
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About 3 - 4 secs
Once we get to the racing season, the tyre and engine rules will see pace on average a bit slower than the headline fastest laps from testing |
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14 Jan 2005, 23:11 (Ref:1201273)
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I guess the thing with this testing is that, at least for the early part, the tyre manufacturers have nothing to loose by giving the team 2004-spec tyres, except when doing tyre evaluation runs of course.
The teams look nice and fast still, which promotes the tyres. I'm guessing we won't see one-race tyres until closer to the start of the season. |
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14 Jan 2005, 23:24 (Ref:1201279)
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Cobblers...
The tyre manufactures will be flat out testing more 2005 spec compounds than you can shake a stick at. There is no longer much use of running with 2004 spec tyres, unless you want to compare the laptimes.... which you can do with the 2004 un-offcial laptimes anyway. |
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15 Jan 2005, 03:42 (Ref:1201364)
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By the end of the year they'll be within a second of where they were, there'll be the usual jumoing up & down from the FIA & Mosley will think of something else to nobble the cars....
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15 Jan 2005, 15:36 (Ref:1201589)
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I think they will perhapps quite a bit slower at Melbourne and tracks where they can't test.
But once the season kicks into swing they will pull back the pace quite quickly. Mosley won't be too worried, there are the v8 engines to introduce for 2006 etc. |
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15 Jan 2005, 16:03 (Ref:1201596)
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No doubt there will be those who now say "the cars aren't any slower, so changing rules is pointless."
Lets not forget that without rule changes they'd have been even quicker. |
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15 Jan 2005, 18:31 (Ref:1201650)
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Valencia isn't really a great track for gauging lap times anyways. It is short and not terribly demanding of a car.
Put it this way, it led us to believe Williams and McLaren were on the pace last pre-season... |
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15 Jan 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1201672)
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