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Old 5 Jun 2004, 21:51 (Ref:994989)   #1
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A closed LMP2?

Is there scope in the rules for such a machine?

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Old 5 Jun 2004, 22:07 (Ref:994998)   #2
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Yes. http://www.lemans.org/univers_sport/...co_2004_gb.pdf

"1.1.1. - "LE MANS" PROTOTYPE category includes :
a/ "LE MANS" PROTOTYPE 1 ("LM"P1) : open or closed (*) car.
b/ "LE MANS" PROTOTYPE 2 ("LM"P2) : open or closed (*) car.
(*) Closed car must have a windscreen and one door on each side ;"
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 21:15 (Ref:995552)   #3
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Thanks Patrick.I was just wondering the other day about a baby LMP GTP
Now how about ideas for one..
naturally a judd engine anyway or maybe something else..

Any other ideas?

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Old 6 Jun 2004, 21:59 (Ref:995603)   #4
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Thanks Patrick.I was just wondering the other day about a baby LMP GTP
Now how about ideas for one..
naturally a judd engine anyway or maybe something else..

Any other ideas?

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Heck you could race a DP in the class if you wanted to.
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Old 6 Jun 2004, 22:44 (Ref:995629)   #5
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Oh dear no all though its agood idea i would rather see something that looks like a LMP GTP not one of those disproportioned things

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Old 7 Jun 2004, 02:24 (Ref:995734)   #6
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It's already a big weight problem on a 900 car. Although 750 isn't as bad as 675, I think it'd be hard to get such a car to the weight limit, or at least get enough ballast in, and it'd really mess up the CoG. Besides which, there's more frontal area, which would seem rather important in lower horsepower cars. It seems to me that LMP-2 hangs closer to drag on the downforce/efficency/drag scale than an LMP-1.
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 02:40 (Ref:995738)   #7
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I doubt the DP would be compeitive in P2 and it also has the hurdle of crash testing by the ACO.
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DP are to low to be legal in LMP2. DP's run a 1.5" ground clearance with a flat underbody. LMP2 ground clearance must be 3"(wild guess) along the sides and they have to run a concave underbody to hopefully keep them from flying...

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What is a DP ?
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Daytona Prototypes.

I don't think it is practical to convert one to LMP, as Patrick B says.
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Old 7 Jun 2004, 11:38 (Ref:996049)   #11
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What is a DP ?
that's a good question
don't know if it was meant to be funny, though
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Oh Bernard !

Pounetbf, a DP is a Daytona Protoype...

For DPs/GARRA fans : I assume this question was a real one. We're not accustomed to DPs in France...
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DP are to low to be legal in LMP2. DP's run a 1.5" ground clearance with a flat underbody. LMP2 ground clearance must be 3"(wild guess) along the sides and they have to run a concave underbody to hopefully keep them from flying...
Convex actually.

A couple of other places where it wouldn't work:

-DP rear overhang is 32 to 34" (more than ACO's allowed 750 mm)
-DP minimum height 41" (more than LMP maximum height 1030 mm)
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