Take a 2019 Tea Break with Delta

[Mike Bell]

Well I reckon it goes back to chariot racing, when the Brits painted their horses red to fool the locals.......

Carry on....

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

I would say you can't - I saw it first! However, I'm already in the process of buying an Alfa GT.

Should anyone be interested in any of these cars at the nmc auction, as its less than anhour from me and there are lots of "interesting" vehicles - well, interestig to one of my age, I might wander over to have a look at them - if anyone wants me to check anything in particular, give me a shout!

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by grantp

Not that Donington was much better in the early afternoon. I think I probably had the best viewing opportunities sitting at home on the warm and dry.

I was surprised about how many cars seemed to be running without lights on - at both events.

It was specifically mentioned in our briefing that drivers should have lights on, but as you say there were quite a few that didn't - I nearly took out a BMW that was overtaking me close behind another car - with no lights on I only just saw him as I started to turn in.....crazy!

[Peter Mallett]

I don't recall where I read that about MG and am quite happy to accept the Merc solution above. That said I have a print by Brian De Grineau of the K3 driven by Count "Johnnie" Lorani on my dining room wall. Signed by the Count as well. The car is green so it may disprove my point.

Going back to the EV thing, the Telegraph has started a series today concerning the growth of EV s and when the tipping point will occur. They seem to think it will be around 2035. Way past when I will be interested. In support of Tel's points they do say that the European "grid" will need upwards of 630Bn Euros to upgrade it to cope with full EV usage. And they also suggest batteries have plateaued so the costs of replacements will still be significant in 10yrs.

But they also think that running costs will be/are significantly less than the equivalent ICE powered vehicle.

Here's the link but I think it's behind the paywall.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...d=tmg_share_em

Edit: BTW EB that Merc is stunning.

[bauble]

The Targa was won by Clemente Biondetti in a Le Mans Replica Frazer Nash in 1952 or 53 (easy to check). I always thought that was a fantastic result.

[John Turner]

You are right that an FN brilliantly won the Targa, but it was 1951, and my source (Targa Florio by David Owen, published 1979) says it was Franco Cortese driving.

However Biondetti did win in 1948 & 1949, both times in a Ferraris and shared driving.

[PeterMorley]

Originally Posted by bauble

Peter, do you know if KOY and JOY had a similar chassis, it seems strange that Lionel preferred the open wheel concept to the Barchetta, if that was the main difference. Even so KOY is also a good looking motor car. I have pictures from Goodwood I could look out if you wanted some.

Regards,

Bob

Bob

They were certainly similar chassis, similar construction/square tube sizes etc.

But it has been suggested that one or the other or both were based on recycled 500 chassis so there will be detail differences.

KOY had details that were only on the earliest 500s.
Somewhere says JOY was based on "an old 500" chassis.

Another possibility is that when Cooper made the Cooper-MG sportscar chassis they were new but based on the older design...

As with most things Cooper I think it's hard to be sure of anything!

Peter
p.s. photos of KOY are always appreciated.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by John Turner

You are right that an FN brilliantly won the Targa, but it was 1951, and my source (Targa Florio by David Owen, published 1979) says it was Franco Cortese driving.

However Biondetti did win in 1948 & 1949, both times in a Ferraris and shared driving.

Thanks for the correction John, I could have checked (should), but I am getting careless in my old age. I remember reading about the victory in the Autocar, and being very impressed, For me the Targa and the Mille Miglia were proper races, typical Italian heroic in scale, yet in the Miglia drivers entered in Fiat 500's and similar cars. Crazy!.

Regards,

Bob.

[bauble]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FPenrHUkmWLspcYn7

Peter, a link to a few images of KOY, I may have more, and if I find them I will add them to the album. You can download from the site.

Bob

[bauble]

Originally Posted by bauble

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FPenrHUkmWLspcYn7

Peter, a link to a few images of KOY, I may have more, and if I find them I will add them to the album. You can download from the site.

Bob

More added. Is the other Cooper MG the ex-Peter Reece car do you know?

[midgetman]

It appears that despite my motor racing, my meat eating and my drinking, my most heinous crime is that I have a potentially life-threatening disease and take inhalers to control it.

Let's just reduce the numbers of the human race, starting with experts, activists and politicians. See, there's plenty of resources to go round now, the most green we've been for years


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[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by midgetman

It appears that despite my motor racing, my meat eating and my drinking, my most heinous crime is that I have a potentially life-threatening disease and take inhalers to control it.

Let's just reduce the numbers of the human race, starting with experts, activists and politicians. See, there's plenty of resources to go round now, the most green we've been for years


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When I heard about this on the radio this morning I thought that inhaling a powder like substance instead didn't sound like the sort of thing that asthma should be doing?

[GORDON STREETER]

Has any of you watched channel 266 Sports Channel Network ? they have a motorsport section and I watched a Spa Classic from earlier in the year.
Having just returned from Spain for a couple of months I have never seen it before as my SmartTV over there won't show freeview without spending money or trying to beat the system with a VPN that actually works

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

Has any of you watched channel 266 Sports Channel Network ? they have a motorsport section and I watched a Spa Classic from earlier in the year.
Having just returned from Spain for a couple of months I have never seen it before as my SmartTV over there won't show freeview without spending money or trying to beat the system with a VPN that actually works

Prompted me to do a check and it doesn't seem as if we can get that on Freeview oop North

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

Prompted me to do a check and it doesn't seem as if we can get that on Freeview oop North

It would seem as though it is only available to those with internet connected televisions. See: https://sportschannelnetwork.co.uk/

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

It would seem as though it is only available to those with internet connected televisions. See: https://sportschannelnetwork.co.uk/

Yes my TV is connected to the internet and I tried it on terrestrial Freeview just now and it said "not available" however you can get a free AP for you phone/tablet or whatever and watch it on line

[delta]

We had to get a taxi in Estoril this morning . One of the lads from Mike team used his App on phone for Uber . Blooming brilliant . Best thing since the micro wave oven .

[grantp]

Originally Posted by delta

We had to get a taxi in Estoril this morning . One of the lads from Mike team used his App on phone for Uber . Blooming brilliant . Best thing since the micro wave oven .

It came with breakfast?

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by grantp

It came with breakfast?

Uber Eats (it's a fast food delivery service).

[midgetman]

Just rolled up at a damp and cold kart track "somewhere in the Midlands". How I envy you Globetrotters in the warm of Portugal!

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[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by delta

We had to get a taxi in Estoril this morning . One of the lads from Mike team used his App on phone for Uber . Blooming brilliant . Best thing since the micro wave oven .

Why are you in Estoril? No wonder you needed a taxi!

[delta]

No no no . Just needed to get to super market

[Peter Mallett]

But you're in Portimao aren't you?

[delta]

Pete , I left the truck at Estoril a couple of weeks ago . We drove back with two more cars “ van and trailer “. Collected truck and carried on to Portimao. Just having a stroll along sea front now .Very nice . Happy November everyone

[The Fat Clerk]

Happy November everyone[/QUOTE]

Blimey, where did that year go?