Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Sportscar & GT Racing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 6 Jun 2021, 16:50 (Ref:4054961)   #2326
Hawkwood
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
United Kingdom
Warrington
Posts: 2,052
Hawkwood should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridHawkwood should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by WyldStallion View Post
Check this out...the driver of the slowest car in the N24 field this year. Giving commentary while driving and cars passing him everywhere. And he is having the time of his life!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srKL5fjdzpk
Excellent video, he's obviously having a great time.
Hawkwood is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 17:01 (Ref:4054962)   #2327
Anyopenroad
Veteran
 
Anyopenroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
England
London
Posts: 1,442
Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkwood View Post
Excellent video, he's obviously having a great time.
Absolutely brilliant, the spirit of the race right there. I loved the moment he went for 6th gear then remembered he only had 5! Guy can drive though, make no mistake. Wonderful.
Anyopenroad is offline  
__________________
I like taking pictures of cars going round tracks, through forests and up hills.
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 17:31 (Ref:4054969)   #2328
Hawkwood
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
United Kingdom
Warrington
Posts: 2,052
Hawkwood should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridHawkwood should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Just reading the Sportscar365 report, and the race result list: https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...urburgring-24/


The #911 won, with Cairoli, Christensen, Estre listed as victors in the results list.

However, Lars Kern was also on the entry list for that car, but he's not on the results as a race winner - anyone know if there's a reason he wouldn't be listed, or whether it's just likely to be an error?
Hawkwood is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 17:39 (Ref:4054972)   #2329
J Jay
Veteran
 
J Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
United Kingdom
Manchester
Posts: 6,105
J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkwood View Post
Just reading the Sportscar365 report, and the race result list: https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...urburgring-24/


The #911 won, with Cairoli, Christensen, Estre listed as victors in the results list.

However, Lars Kern was also on the entry list for that car, but he's not on the results as a race winner - anyone know if there's a reason he wouldn't be listed, or whether it's just likely to be an error?
This was discussed in the stream - Lars didn't drive* so he therefore didn't make the required drive time to be counted for any potential honours.

*I'm 90% sure of this anecdotally, but I'm happy to be corrected.
J Jay is online now  
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing.
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 20:29 (Ref:4054995)   #2330
Truckosaurus
Veteran
 
Truckosaurus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
England
North Hampshire
Posts: 2,475
Truckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I suspect there's several teams who didn't need all their drivers due to the shortened race.

I managed to catch the start and end of the race between outings and errands over the weekend, and then followed up by watching coverage of the Shelsley Walsh hillclimb, a similarly old track to the ring but a little shorter in length.
Truckosaurus is offline  
__________________
"Not the pronoun but a player with the unlikely name of Who is on first."
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 20:34 (Ref:4054996)   #2331
AndrewCherry
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
European Union
Horsham
Posts: 136
AndrewCherry should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridAndrewCherry should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Guessing that article may have been updated as it now includes:

"Estre, Christensen and Cairoli were teamed up with Lars Kern, however the Porsche production car specialist was unable to take part due to illness."
AndrewCherry is offline  
Quote
Old 6 Jun 2021, 20:51 (Ref:4054998)   #2332
Racing Harz
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Germany
Herzberg am Harz
Posts: 2,000
Racing Harz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRacing Harz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
he was so "ill" that he was happy in the paddock. Same with Dirk Müller for GetSpeed etc. Lame excuse!
Racing Harz is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 07:52 (Ref:4055060)   #2333
AndrewCherry
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
European Union
Horsham
Posts: 136
AndrewCherry should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridAndrewCherry should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Hah, I guess there's a bit of face-saving going on there - as a driver I guess I'd rather be described as "too ill, sadly couldn't race for us" than "the 4th best of our 4 drivers, so didn't get in the car"
AndrewCherry is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 08:06 (Ref:4055062)   #2334
BertMk2
Race Official
Veteran
 
BertMk2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
United Kingdom
Nr Maidstone, Kent
Posts: 10,270
BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!
They mentioned on the commentary that to be classified each driver had to complete at least 2 laps (and they mentioned at the time that teams with 4 drivers would either have to compromise their race or drop a driver).
BertMk2 is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 09:25 (Ref:4055076)   #2335
J Jay
Veteran
 
J Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
United Kingdom
Manchester
Posts: 6,105
J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!J Jay is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewCherry View Post
Hah, I guess there's a bit of face-saving going on there - as a driver I guess I'd rather be described as "too ill, sadly couldn't race for us" than "the 4th best of our 4 drivers, so didn't get in the car"
I was avoiding saying the quiet part out loud, but yes, in a car with Estre, Christensen & Cairoli, even someone as talented as Lars Kern is clearly fourth best!

A penny for his thoughts right now ...
J Jay is online now  
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing.
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 09:54 (Ref:4055083)   #2336
Truckosaurus
Veteran
 
Truckosaurus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
England
North Hampshire
Posts: 2,475
Truckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTruckosaurus should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Jay View Post
...
A penny for his thoughts right now ...
Depends if he is paid by the lap.

A pro-driver shouldn't be in a huff about it, it's no different to your car crashing out before it is your stint.
Truckosaurus is offline  
__________________
"Not the pronoun but a player with the unlikely name of Who is on first."
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 10:59 (Ref:4055087)   #2337
gert
Veteran
 
gert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Belgium
Antwerp
Posts: 6,137
gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!gert is going for a new world record!
I don't think Cairoli got that much seat time either?

Let's be honest: Who would not ty to maximize Estre's drive time ?
He was mighty.
gert is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 11:12 (Ref:4055088)   #2338
hoffman66
Racer
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 282
hoffman66 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The race is crazy really, the amount of near misses coming up to slow zones was pretty much beyond my ability to count, or passes on the grass, or whatever, it is a bonkers race, but the ability of all to cope with it is astonishing really, the weather was crazy.
hoffman66 is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 16:16 (Ref:4055177)   #2339
SnoodyMcFlude
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
United Kingdom
Posts: 520
SnoodyMcFlude should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridSnoodyMcFlude should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by gert View Post
I don't think Cairoli got that much seat time either?

Let's be honest: Who would not ty to maximize Estre's drive time ?
He was mighty.
Yeah, and I think most drivers in a team would acknowledge that Estre and Christensen were the better bet to have in the car.

Despite so little running I think it still ended up being a really exciting race for what I saw. Not what we all wanted but what can you do about the weather. Not like June is a particularly wet and cold month historically and as others have said, we've seen similar conditions throughout the year. Always easy for the armchair fan to say "just hold it on x date" but there's so much more than just teams to consider, not least the huge number of marshals required to run the event.
SnoodyMcFlude is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 16:23 (Ref:4055180)   #2340
Spyderman
Veteran
 
Spyderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Mozambique
Mozambique
Posts: 4,642
Spyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckosaurus View Post
Depends if he is paid by the lap.

A pro-driver shouldn't be in a huff about it, it's no different to your car crashing out before it is your stint.
He is a Porsche test/development driver so he will be ok.
Spyderman is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jun 2021, 16:26 (Ref:4055183)   #2341
Spyderman
Veteran
 
Spyderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Mozambique
Mozambique
Posts: 4,642
Spyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpyderman should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by gert View Post
I don't think Cairoli got that much seat time either?

Let's be honest: Who would not ty to maximize Estre's drive time ?
He was mighty.
Cairoli is usually very quick, but he was on the wrong compound of tire during his stint and therefore was slow in comparison to the others.
Spyderman is offline  
Quote
Old 8 Jun 2021, 20:26 (Ref:4055342)   #2342
broadrun96
Veteran
 
broadrun96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
United States
Posts: 11,215
broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoodyMcFlude View Post
Yeah, and I think most drivers in a team would acknowledge that Estre and Christensen were the better bet to have in the car.

Despite so little running I think it still ended up being a really exciting race for what I saw. Not what we all wanted but what can you do about the weather. Not like June is a particularly wet and cold month historically and as others have said, we've seen similar conditions throughout the year. Always easy for the armchair fan to say "just hold it on x date" but there's so much more than just teams to consider, not least the huge number of marshals required to run the event.
It's exactly that. First, amateur teams and drivers ad crews having fun are a huge part of the event and the reason is has, on normal years, huge grids. Those teams need the holiday time to function. Second, all the support staff, and especially the volunteer support staff, needed to run this event. You can't ask them to run it too many years within a short turn-around of other major events. Those crews also want the holiday to be able to volunteer and have the time. Finally, look at the yearly weather history. There aren't these beautiful gaps without poor weather in the historical data. It's a crpshoot at best and part of what makes it interesting. You're not gonna get that perfect weather 24 Hours straight through without interruption, that's just the event
broadrun96 is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Jul 2021, 19:52 (Ref:4062581)   #2343
JimboCycling
Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 40
JimboCycling should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Rather behind but I have finally finished watching this year's race. Enjoyed it as ever but it didn't feel like a classic.

Can anyone tell me what the rationale is for the minimum pit stop times being different in the last 70 minutes? For the main part of the race I can understand longer stops for longer stints, as otherwise we'd see very little variation in strategy. I don't see why that should change in the last 70 minutes. The only thing I could think is that is the same logic but based on stint to end of race rather than stint just completed...
JimboCycling is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2021, 07:51 (Ref:4062621)   #2344
SnoodyMcFlude
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
United Kingdom
Posts: 520
SnoodyMcFlude should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridSnoodyMcFlude should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimboCycling View Post
The only thing I could think is that is the same logic but based on stint to end of race rather than stint just completed...
I assume it all comes into the calculation of how pitstops work across the whole race. Does seem strange to adjust it in a really confusing way for the last stop.
SnoodyMcFlude is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Sep 2021, 17:36 (Ref:4072011)   #2345
Anyopenroad
Veteran
 
Anyopenroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
England
London
Posts: 1,442
Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!Anyopenroad has a real shot at the championship!
I hadn't seen this until now. A 2x6hr race in Sep next year (with parc ferme, so a 12-hr in 2 parts):


https://nuerburgring.de/news/aus-dem...n-nuerburgring
Anyopenroad is offline  
__________________
I like taking pictures of cars going round tracks, through forests and up hills.
Quote
Old 4 Sep 2021, 23:23 (Ref:4072049)   #2346
crmalcolm
Subscriber
Veteran
 
crmalcolm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Nepal
Exactly where I need to be.
Posts: 12,292
crmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anyopenroad View Post
I hadn't seen this until now. A 2x6hr race in Sep next year (with parc ferme, so a 12-hr in 2 parts):


https://nuerburgring.de/news/aus-dem...n-nuerburgring
Interesting. I have a query - I understand that teams won't be able to work on the cars, but will they still be able to access them and carry out analysis of components?
crmalcolm is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Sep 2021, 08:42 (Ref:4073045)   #2347
TWRv12
Veteran
 
TWRv12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,975
TWRv12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridTWRv12 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
German stream live
https://www.youtube.com/embed/FWtU7KPE57M


English stream in about 30 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0d-LZ1RtUY
TWRv12 is offline  
__________________
Cromley: "With the margin Gareth has, he doesn't need to play for sheep stations"
Quote
Old 11 Sep 2021, 10:16 (Ref:4073058)   #2348
canaglia
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,920
canaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcanaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I've seen new M4 gt3 starting from the end of gt3/sp9 block, is there any info about bop given to the car?
canaglia is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Sep 2021, 10:48 (Ref:4073061)   #2349
Racing Harz
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Germany
Herzberg am Harz
Posts: 2,000
Racing Harz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRacing Harz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by canaglia View Post
I've seen new M4 gt3 starting from the end of gt3/sp9 block, is there any info about bop given to the car?
Sure:
https://www.nuerburgring-langstrecke...09.09.2021.pdf
Racing Harz is offline  
Quote
Old 11 Sep 2021, 11:27 (Ref:4073063)   #2350
canaglia
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,920
canaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcanaglia should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racing Harz View Post

thank you and wow! M4 gt3 has a crazy boost for the whole rpm range!
>2.4bar@6500rpm I find hard to believe the car is getting "only" 520hp...
it's basically like M4 is using a 6.5-7L NA for the whole rpm range
canaglia is offline  
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nurburgring 24 hours AndrewF31 Sportscar & GT Racing 400 27 May 2009 21:45
Competing in the Nurburgring 24 Hours Sodemo Racers Forum 19 8 Aug 2006 22:15
Nurburgring 24 Hours BSchneiderFan Touring Car Racing 51 17 Mar 2003 21:20
24 hours of Nurburgring E46 Sportscar & GT Racing 16 22 Jan 2003 22:33


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.