TONY C: Give it another tug son..

[Falcadore]

Originally posted by TerryK
I thought Paul was closer to the truth about what the fan wanted than anyone on the show before only to cop a serve from TC...Looks like Paul may read this forum...wonder if TC does ?

I'm sure Paul Gover has other means of keeping tabs on the pulse rather than the time consuming task of scouring internet fora. Journalism is an extremely time poor profession.

That AVESCO and a lot of other V8Supercar people keep close tabs on Conrods forums is public knowledge, by extension you'd think quite a few would read here to.

The biggest problem in that regard is, while almost every other motor racing series accepts and uses fora as a positive thing, yes even Formula One I can attest to from years of working with Atlas, V8Supercar has taken a uniquely negative view and have been taken fora far too seriously, as if they are gospell in life.

Seriously there's more than a few in V8s who need to build a bridge.

[Crash Test]

Falc- absolutely, you'd be surprised who reads the various forii around the joint, and how easy that can catch you out

Can I make this generalisation- people who get on forums are more towards the hard core person rather than towards the "Joe Boofhead" side of the audience. Maybe TC really talks to the VB-swilling-show-us-yer-tits majority rather than the people who are more into all sorts of motorsport?

[Mattracer]

Yes, the term "motorsport" gets used an awful lot when it's really V8 Supercars that he's on about.

Good on Paul Gover anyway for stickng up for us "little guys" only to get shot down in flames...

[Falcadore]

Originally posted by Crash Test
Falc- absolutely, you'd be surprised who reads the various forii around the joint, and how easy that can catch you out

Can I make this generalisation- people who get on forums are more towards the hard core person rather than towards the "Joe Boofhead" side of the audience. Maybe TC really talks to the VB-swilling-show-us-yer-tits majority rather than the people who are more into all sorts of motorsport?

As a generalisation of a generalisation, sports promotion is very like politics. The hard core fans, like hard core Liberal or Labour voters, don't need special attnetion because you've already got their vote regardless.

Tony Cochrane is after the swinging voters. They're the people he wants and needs to get trackside.

[SDR41A]

I don't think Paul Gover was shot down in flames, rather attacking TC & exposing his true arrogance for us all to see and hear. If anything it has made TC more of a boof head and total fool than I had thought previous.

I hope one day it all comes crashing down on him and reduces him to the **** ant he really is.

[TSR]

TC looked like a ravinig fool today . He won't listen to his paying fans and in the end HE could cause the death of this class

[stmookeyj033]

Originally posted by Crash Test
2ndly, in his infinte wisdom he has decided to set a date THE SAME DAY AS THE GOLD COAST INDY!!! But wait for it, it gets better...He then sent a request to Bobby Rahal for Cart to move their date!!!

from AA:
"Bobby's initial reaction is why don't you guys just move, (your date) which is fair enough, if i was in Bobby's position i would ask the same thing. It is a little hard for American's to get their head around the fact that we are a bigger championship in this country."

Given that Rahal is now in IRL I'm stunned that TC would even ask him.

[Mattracer]

Tony Cohrane dismissed his line of questioning as emotional and rhetorical. At least he tried. The Tasmania thing seemed to get under his skin quite effectively. The AUSTRALIAN Touring Car Championship also touched a nerve.

[Crash Test]

stmook- hrmm, check the date on that original post, it was from many years ago

[cynical_one]

Originally posted by The Tool Man
If you send suggestions to Avesco you get no reply or some lame excuse as to why that wont work or told that its not what fans want. Send them some critiscism or a highly opinionated letter as to what you think of what they are doing and you get a reply almost immediately and its not usually a nice one....

...TONY LISTEN TO THE FANS.

Boycott buying team merchandise, and tell them why. Then we'll see who TC listens to...

[TerryK]

Originally posted by Falcadore
As a generalisation of a generalisation, sports promotion is very like politics. The hard core fans, like hard core Liberal or Labour voters, don't need special attnetion because you've already got their vote regardless.

Tony Cochrane is after the swinging voters. They're the people he wants and needs to get trackside.

Ok so they keep an eye on Conrod so one would guess this forum would get equal viewing, we get drivers using their real names on both Conrod & ten tenths & I guess some using a handle as well then why not listen to the fans.

We should be racing in Tassi long before going off to China. What if Winton gets dumped ? Is TC only going to go to track that bend over & come up with the largest amount of cash ? Has the sport got that low ?

[Just Do It!]

I've had to mop the floor myself actually after the Supercar/CART/Bobby Rahal line too.

Shows how hardcore some hardcore fans are really......

[fordo]

I thought it was funny later on at the end of RPM when Bill Woods said that Eastern Creek better watch out as instead of going there to replace China they will be either going to Tasmania or NZ for another round.
So how far after the superstars show on monday was RPM filmed or is it live?

[Boss330]

Originally posted by colinbond
Time for Cochrane to go

Colonel Klink runs the show & he wont stand for any critism
from the unwashed masses, after all, they "no nuthing" & only contribute the "folding stuff"

[Falcadore]

Originally posted by Mattracer
Tony Cohrane dismissed his line of questioning as emotional and rhetorical. At least he tried. The Tasmania thing seemed to get under his skin quite effectively. The AUSTRALIAN Touring Car Championship also touched a nerve.

Maybe TC and a former pig farming prime minister have gotten together on subject of the limitations of being Australian :P

[Falcadore]

Originally posted by TerryK
....We should be racing in Tassi long before going off to China. What if Winton gets dumped ? Is TC only going to go to track that bend over & come up with the largest amount of cash ? Has the sport got that low ?

As the Crash suggested, there are 2 billion Chinese and around 2 hundred thousand Tasmanians. You do the math.

[TerryK]

Originally posted by Falcadore
As the Crash suggested, there are 2 billion Chinese and around 2 hundred thousand Tasmanians. You do the math.

But would the Chinese go to watch Falcons & Commodores race?

[Falcadore]

Dunno, but fractions of fractions of billions are still a lot.

[TerryK]

Originally posted by Falcadore
Dunno, but fractions of fractions of billions are still a lot.

There might be money to be made 1st time around when the Chinese come to see what's going on but don't know about the 2nd time could go either way.

[Crash Test]

Do the locals have the disposable income to go and spend on noisy taxis?

I still think they should have a race around the outside of Hong Kong island. Awesome piece of road in parts, ready made audience of a few million. Put that in yer pipe Bernie!

[275 GTB-4]

Originally posted by Crash Test
Do the locals have the disposable income to go and spend on noisy taxis?

I still think they should have a race around the outside of Hong Kong island. Awesome piece of road in parts, ready made audience of a few million. Put that in yer pipe Bernie!

Yeah Crash, it might be a nice run around the island but will it last?

I think we all agree that the Soopertaxis are on to something special (like NASCAR) where they appeal to the masses. But, to guaranty some longevity, TC needs to be really careful about how he deploys the teams that made him famous. I suggested Long Beach for an overseas destination noting the common interest between the two nations. I also recommended a Hobart street race for the Taswegians AND
a bunch of mainlanders who would travel over to see the spectacle.

Maybe TC needs a lethal injection of common sense!

[Bigguy]

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4
Yeah Crash, it might be a nice run around the island but will it last?

I think we all agree that the Soopertaxis are on to something special (like NASCAR) where they appeal to the masses. But, to guaranty some longevity, TC needs to be really careful about how he deploys the teams that made him famous. I suggested Long Beach for an overseas destination noting the common interest between the two nations. I also recommended a Hobart street race for the Taswegians AND
a bunch of mainlanders who would travel over to see the spectacle.

Maybe TC needs a lethal injection of common sense!

Hey guys, why not a street race in downtown Bagdad? That would get everbody's attention for sure!

[V8 Superdave]

How fast do you reckon an armour-plated all wheel drive Supercar would be anyway, carrying the bulletproof glass?

[marcus]

and god forbid what the top ten shootout would be like

[Falcadore]

It might at least prompt Seton to put on a full face helmet at last.