Formula Renault BARC - Page 4

widerviewphoto · 22 Apr 2005, 08:22 (Ref:1284366)

I haven't heard from Nino & Alf lately, but It is unlikely we will see them for Donington.

I understand that Cameron had understeer problems at Silverstone, so if he can get his car sorted I do expect him to be much closer to Ian.

Bob Pearson · 22 Apr 2005, 09:17 (Ref:1284395)

A correction on my weather forecast, it now looks like a dry morning and a wet afternoon. I agree with you about Cameron, I do expect a challenge to come from there, maybe this weekend. If we see Nino at all I think it will be at Snetterton. Everone complains of understeer at Silverstone, it just seems to come with the territory

dasc04 · 22 Apr 2005, 09:44 (Ref:1284410)

forecast i've seen is wet. but its always different to what they say on the day!

steveng · 22 Apr 2005, 10:10 (Ref:1284435)

You're dead right it was due to go on the mono thread. Thanks for the offer!

RSportRacer · 24 Apr 2005, 15:57 (Ref:1285930)

Formula Renault BARC Championship - RACE CLASSIFICATION - RACE 4
POS NO CL DRIVER NAT CAR TIME LAPS GAP MPH BEST
1 25 20 Nick WILCOX Formula Renault 2.0 16:55.454 14 97.03 1:11.016
2 6 20 Nicky WILSON Formula Renault 2.0 16:56.075 14 0.621 96.97 1:11.434
3 3 CL Ian PEARSON Tatuus RC 97 17:04.052 14 8.598 96.22 1:12.038
4 5 20 Matt RUSSELL Formula Renault 2.0 17:07.277 14 11.823 95.92 1:10.675
5 9 20 Denis AUTIER Formula Renault 2.0 17:08.482 14 13.028 95.80 1:11.734
6 22 20 Dean STIRLING Formula Renault 2.0 17:12.972 14 17.518 95.39 1:11.968
7 17 20 Philippe CHALLANDE Formula Renault 2.0 17:55.144 14 59.690 91.64 1:15.217
8 8 CL Bill ALLEN Tatuus RC 98/99 17:31.225 12 2 LAPS 80.32 1:25.378
Not Classified
4 CL David SCOTT Tatuus RC 98/99 15:27.106 12 D.N.F. 91.08 1:15.377
97 CL Pierre RENOM Tatuus RC98 15:27.230 12 D.N.F. 91.07 1:14.633
33 CL Andy SKRICZKA Mygale SJ99 12:11.401 9 D.N.F. 86.55 1:17.462
11 CL Martin BLOSS Tatuus RC97 0 D.N.F. N/A
16 CL Bob PEARSON Tatuus RC 98/99 0 D.N.F. N/A
55 CL Cameron JACKSON Tatuus RC 98 0 D.N.F. N/A
99 CL James GREEN Tatuus 98/99 0 D.N.F. N/A

RSportRacer · 24 Apr 2005, 15:58 (Ref:1285932)

wat happened on the first lap to take out 4 cars???

Well done to Ian Pearson on getting up their with the fr2k's

widerviewphoto · 24 Apr 2005, 17:02 (Ref:1285989)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSportRacer

wat happened on the first lap to take out 4 cars???

Well done to Ian Pearson on getting up their with the fr2k's

Pole man Russell spun coming up to old hairpin, and drivrs took avoiding action. Cameron Jackson spun off & Bloss, Green & Scott collided. Only Scott carried on with broken front wing, until he too was taken out near the end by Renom at the Esses.

Then the stewards reversed the first two after a contentious issue of overtaking undr yellow.

Wilcox still leads the championship though, and he had a great scarp with Wilson throughout the race.

Cheers

RSportRacer · 24 Apr 2005, 18:02 (Ref:1286036)

Which Nicky won?
Any sign/news/hope of Jack Anderson and the all mighty Team Griffin Racing...

RSportRacer · 24 Apr 2005, 18:07 (Ref:1286041)

joking aside hope he does get out soon, some extra cars would help bolster the grid

widerviewphoto · 24 Apr 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1286076)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSportRacer

Which Nicky won?
Any sign/news/hope of Jack Anderson and the all mighty Team Griffin Racing...

Nick Wilcox won on the road and Nicky Wilson in the Stewards Room.

No sign off Jack Anderson. Maybe Pembrey

Cheers

Bob Pearson · 25 Apr 2005, 07:38 (Ref:1286570)

The first lap carnage was actually two seperate incidents. The Old Hairpin spin by Russell only accounted for the loss of Cameron Jackson who spun in the dust storm. The second and more damageing incident started at Coppice when a touch between Dave Scott and Martin Bloss resulted in Blossy suffering a rear tyre puncture. Unfortunately that didn't become evident until he found he couldn't stop for the Chicane and took out James Green.
It was a sad sight after the event to see so much damage. I felt pretty sorry for myself when I couldn't take the start, but when I looked around after the race ended I began to realise that I was probably the lucky one.
After Silverstone it was obvious that the twin cam cars didn't have a great advantage over the 8 valves on the straights so we assumed the one second advantage they had came from accumalating it through the corners. It is strange that with Donnington being such a different type of track to Silverstone the race pace gap stayed about the same.

terje · 25 Apr 2005, 18:21 (Ref:1287185)

Quote:

Originally Posted by widerviewphoto

Then the stewards reversed the first two after a contentious issue of overtaking undr yellow.

There was nothing contentious about it, if you break the rules you must accept the consequences.

widerviewphoto · 26 Apr 2005, 06:52 (Ref:1287613)

Probably, but if the Marshall had reported the incident at the time as he/she should of then the presentations wouldn't have been done as the race result would have been under investigation.

The final decsion was the right one, but we could have done without the two hour wait

steveng · 27 Apr 2005, 10:30 (Ref:1288396)

Hello Renault boys..May I ask for advice? I have a Martini Mk71. Nice car, it needs some sorting but I think it will go OK. It will not idle, even when warm, which is a real pain going up to the collecting area or grid. I don't want to mess with the ECU/Throttle settings in case I b*gger up the mapping. Any advice gratefully received. Thanks.

Bob Pearson · 27 Apr 2005, 10:57 (Ref:1288423)

There is a small screw on the throttle stop on the Throttle Box on the Inlet manifold. You can adjust the idle on that. They don't idle very happily, some drivers don't even try to set the idle they just rely on themselves to keep them running. We set the idle on ours as low as possible for running at 75-80 deg which is usually about 1200 rpm. No matter what they are set at if you give them a rev and let them die down they almost certainly stop. When you have the idle set at at about 1200 coast towards the grid with your foot off the throttle, when you dip the clutch it should continue idling. You wont affect the mapping by changing the throttle stop in this way.
Are you going to come out to play with us? It is nice to be made a fuss of by Renault, It is so rare for anyone in Motor racing to treat you like human beings, we are thoroughly enjoying the sensation.

terje · 27 Apr 2005, 10:58 (Ref:1288425)

Bob Pearson · 27 Apr 2005, 11:19 (Ref:1288443)

Call me thick Terje, but I thought you had forgotten to write something. Now the penny has dropped I've had a good laugh. I might have known I was sticking my neck out by sounding happy when you are around to read it. This is all on the back of a win on Sunday, I hate to think how you would be if you had a bad day. I guess the euphoric reaction of clinching the championship at Croft last year when you almost smiled has worn off.

pitcrew · 27 Apr 2005, 11:47 (Ref:1288468)

does anyone have any photos of the 1st lap accedent at goddards?

terje · 27 Apr 2005, 13:38 (Ref:1288551)

Thats why they call me the smiler! Anyway I was smiling at the weekend... you just missed it as I had my crash helmet on ;o)

widerviewphoto · 27 Apr 2005, 14:32 (Ref:1288592)

Sorry can't help you as I was based on the start/finish straight along with another accredited photographer.

steveng · 28 Apr 2005, 06:49 (Ref:1289141)

Thanks Bob, Sadly someone covered me in oil on the run down to bridge at Silvestone on Sunday. As they did so I lost it, I hit the concrete wall on the straight. Nasty as no tyres etc. Damage only to wishbones and uprights but it will take a while to source and sort out. Not where one would expect to crash. :

Bob Pearson · 3 May 2005, 13:06 (Ref:1292023)

Well, It looks like all the accident damaged cars from Donnington will be out at Pembrey, plus James Heffernan (accident damage from Silverstone). But what of the accident damaged Jack Anderson, does anyone know if he will make Pembrey. And what about you Terje? have you up-ended the piggy banks for another run with Falcon. Pierre Renom is in the unique position of having an accident damaged car from each class, I'm not sure which one is winning the race to be repaired first.

terje · 3 May 2005, 16:04 (Ref:1292126)

No, I'm afraid my piggy-bank is empty. Even so I'm turning my attention to FRUK budgets. As for Bill Allen he won't be attending due to work commitments overseas. In the mean time I will endeavour to up his pace so he can mix it with the rest of the field at Croft.

Bob Pearson · 4 May 2005, 09:21 (Ref:1292673)

Mmm, looks like Pembrey may be a bit quiet, still, nothing new in that, historically we have never had a good entry for that event. I can never understand that, it always seems a nice weekend away to us.
Rumour has it that we are supposed to be running with plastic front wing end plates for
Pembrey, a reaction to the cut tyre accident at Donnington. Maybe a bit late to get that all in place. Not a bad idea though, we have all had cut tyres and valves chopped off at some time.

steveng · 5 May 2005, 07:45 (Ref:1293462)

Sorry to keep asking for advice from you FR people....Most grateful for the idle setting advice though. I would like to pick your brains on tyres. My Martini had some very old Michelins, circa 2001 vintage so something had to be changed. I have been running with Monoposto so I needed to raise the ride height. I was offered some 2005 Avon radials from current F3. On the front they had a 2cm larger diameter than the Michelins so I got an extra cm without touching the suspension. The rears are the same diameter and I took the view that it was my first race with the car, I'm an old member of Mono and nobody would get too uptight about the ride height (I am not a front runner either-Nobody protests Minardi do they?). No eligibility problems any way.
The problem was that the car was almost undrivable, the rear end was so stiff that I just couldn't get any feel at all. I had three spins in practice which is about as many as I have had in the last three years and I was slower than I used to be in my Vauxhall Junior 16V. I softened off the antiroll bar and there is virtually no pre load in the rear springs, still no suspension movement. I'm sure it is not all car, as always driver is a big factor in club racing but I know I'm quicker than I managed.
Should I go back to Michelins? Use softer Avons? Consider cross plies (with camber change)? Give up and take up golf? What do you guys think?

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