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Old 5 Aug 2016, 18:09 (Ref:3663645)   #31
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First practice and the Fords are in the 2:04's. P is relatively slow with 1:57's.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 18:40 (Ref:3663659)   #32
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Mazdas top the sheets, that should make mr field happy.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 18:57 (Ref:3663662)   #33
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Of course, 1:57 is over 10 seconds a lap slower than the pole time an Audi R10 set there in 2008. Who knows what the 2011-present factory LMP1s could be capable of. Also, a 7 second gap to GTLM isn't anything to write home about, either.
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Of course, 1:57 is over 10 seconds a lap slower than the pole time an Audi R10 set there in 2008. Who knows what the 2011-present factory LMP1s could be capable of. Also, a 7 second gap to GTLM isn't anything to write home about, either.
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Of course, 1:57 is over 10 seconds a lap slower than the pole time an Audi R10 set there in 2008. Who knows what the 2011-present factory LMP1s could be capable of. Also, a 7 second gap to GTLM isn't anything to write home about, either.
Thanks. I find this kind of stuff interesting, and worth knowing. Doesn't change the way I live day to day, but it helps us remember the series doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Obviously some years of Le Mans are slower than previous. But there are efficiencies to be had there. I'm also curious as to how technology has tracked. Are protos slower because they're using less fuel, running smarter? Are they handling resources in such a way that the balance has shifted to move the industry forward?

All very interesting.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 19:56 (Ref:3663681)   #36
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Why do people always compare cars that are intended to be P2 speed to P1 cars...of course they're gonna be slower...
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Mazdas top the sheets, that should make mr field happy.
Ecstatic. They'll find another way to shoot themselves in the foot before too long.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 20:05 (Ref:3663685)   #38
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Why do people always compare cars that are intended to be P2 speed to P1 cars...of course they're gonna be slower...
People find it interesting? I like the idea of automotive progress. It's one of the reasons I follow racing. Two top tier classes. What's the progress looking like?
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 20:12 (Ref:3663691)   #39
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Nothing says a 2016 LMP2 has to be slower than a 2008 LMP1. After all a 2008 LMP1 was over 5 seconds a lap faster than a 2002 one and the current LMP2 cars are faster than the old WSCs that raced SR1 in Grand Am. WEC P2 cars would probably set lower lap times than the R8s did, although the track should be a little faster now with all the extra pavement.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 20:55 (Ref:3663700)   #40
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I noted that because if current LMP1s are as fast as the 2008 cars are, then we know what the current ACO spec cars can do. Biggest thing hold back both the DP and LMP2 cars are probably the spec tires, though.

Also, only a 7 second gap around a 4 mile long track isn't anything to brag about IMO.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 21:32 (Ref:3663711)   #41
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Also, only a 7 second gap around a 4 mile long track isn't anything to brag about IMO.
Yeah, but that gap is controlled totally artificially by inhibiting the Ps and letting the GTEs run more wide open than WEC.
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Old 5 Aug 2016, 22:28 (Ref:3663716)   #42
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In the Indycar RA thread I extrapolated what current 919/R18 pole times would be on RA. It would be about the same as Indycar's pole
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Well in second practice they were doing 1:55.7... That's about a second faster than last year.
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Mazda down to the 1:55.0 range in the last practice before qualifying starts in 2 hours.
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Might see some 1:54's if they can improve again? I fear they'll still get swamped on the start. But maybe if they lock out the front row they can stutter the dp's.
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