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Old 19 Jan 2017, 20:24 (Ref:3703642)   #16
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It's really fun to be driving with my co-driver from the RSR last year (Henzler) and my old ALMS co-driver (Heylen). With 3 real Am's in the car it's going to be hard for us to compete with the all Pro lineups, but if we can avoid trouble and give Wolf and Jan a car to fight with for the last couple stints... I think we can be up there.

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Seems really weird to look at a Daytona 24 Hour entry list that contains only five Porsches! So, that said, I'm pullin' for y'all! I won't be there, got a grits contest going on.
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Old 19 Jan 2017, 22:00 (Ref:3703657)   #17
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I wouldn't put too much into individual driver performance at the Roar -- the teams were doing a lot of different things (in all classes), and the driving duties were far from equally distributed among all the cars. There's a such a big effect from going out in traffic (typically driver changes done during red flag periods, of which there were many) and if they only got a few laps then times would not be representative of performance. Also, very few teams ran all drivers through equal tire allocations. For instance, I did two 3-lap runs over the first 2 days to learn the new GT3R and both runs were on tires that were 1 stint old. My last run was 12 laps to close out the last session on Sunday and the tires had passed 2 stints before I was done.

Either way, there isn't enough information available to the public to know yet who is strong or who is weak -- for drivers or cars. The series might and I think inside the individual classes the competitors keep a bit closer of an eye on their competition (when people go out on stickers, who's driving when, etc).

Anyway, it looks pretty competitive across all the classes IMO and I think it'll lead to a good race. It'll be interesting to see how the new GTD cars come out of the box... if they play the long game for the season and don't go "too fast" or if they say "f*ck it, let's win Daytona!" -- I'd guess the factory teams in it for the season will do the former, and everyone else will do the latter. :-)

And thanks Maelochs! It's really fun to be driving with my co-driver from the RSR last year (Henzler) and my old ALMS co-driver (Heylen). With 3 real Am's in the car it's going to be hard for us to compete with the all Pro lineups, but if we can avoid trouble and give Wolf and Jan a car to fight with for the last couple stints... I think we can be up there.

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And was thinking the same about drivers vs setup. While the stats are interesting and great to have, I was curious as to how much weight they hold.

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This is kind of a dumb point, but I wish IMSA would go away from 3 digit numbers.*

911 ---> 91
912 ---> 92
991 ---> 99

*Exception: 007 is allowed, but only on an Aston Martin
I kinda like it, especially the 911, as that makes more sense than "Beetle".

I also don't mind the "1X" on dirt track cars either.
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 00:23 (Ref:3703675)   #18
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This race will be very very interesting to follow beyond which brand each one likes more. The Cadillac should be strong with that big engine, while the P2 cars with Gibson engines seems as the fastest in general terms. Then we have the Mazda, and the hope for a 4 cilinder's engine to win again since 1993. Will be the Nissan a surprise? It's a fast chassis with a well proven engine, but never working together. How the fuel consumption and tyre wear will play on the race.

By the drivers side, a long list of very experiences drivers, mixed with some amateurs, and very fast young men.

With the data from the roar, it is difficult to say who was really the fastest. As we see every year, early runs should be to get used of the car, track, weather, traffic, keeping the leader lap while avoiden any drama. Later some speed up to measure the rivals, survive the night, and finally let the fastest drivers decide the race.
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 01:01 (Ref:3703677)   #19
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Really the race won't start until about 1 p.m. Sunday when Pipo Derani starts his final two stints.
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3703791)   #20
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and here we go with more BoP

http://competitors.imsa.com/sites/de...lm_gtd_bop.pdf
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 12:01 (Ref:3703805)   #21
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Really the race won't start until about 1 p.m. Sunday when Pipo Derani starts his final two stints.
Pretty sure the race goes green on Saturday.
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 12:02 (Ref:3703806)   #22
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Meh. Daytona is unique so this isn't surprising especially with so many cars.
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 12:05 (Ref:3703808)   #23
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I know the Prototypes are new, so the BoP needs finalised, but the majority of the GT3 and GTLM grids are old cars. Why are they being balanced again?

Whenever IMSA post another round of BoP changes for cars they've been regulating for years, all I hear is "lol sorry, we still don't know how fast an Audi R8 LMS and a Porsche 911 are. Here's another attempt at it".
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Old 20 Jan 2017, 13:05 (Ref:3703824)   #24
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I know the Prototypes are new, so the BoP needs finalised, but the majority of the GT3 and GTLM grids are old cars. Why are they being balanced again?

Whenever IMSA post another round of BoP changes for cars they've been regulating for years, all I hear is "lol sorry, we still don't know how fast an Audi R8 LMS and a Porsche 911 are. Here's another attempt at it".
I've felt that way too. There were times when all the GTE cars had the same types of changes made to them, so it was kind of like what's the point why not just leave them as is. But then I realized that IMSA was trying to speed up the class as a whole.

But for the GTD cars, the existing ones should be the same spec as last year right?
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But for the GTD cars, the existing ones should be the same spec as last year right?
They have new ways of collecting data this year and probably found things they wanted to adjust. Not to mention they also need to mix all the new cars into the class and you can't always make every car faster or slower in the same way. The new cars are faster than the older cars, so it creates a new middle.

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They have new ways of collecting data this year and probably found things they wanted to adjust. Not to mention they also need to mix all the new cars into the class and you can't always make every car faster or slower in the same way. The new cars are faster than the older cars, so it creates a new middle.

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Seems really weird to look at a Daytona 24 Hour entry list that contains only five Porsches! So, that said, I'm pullin' for y'all! I won't be there, got a grits contest going on.
We are looking at 14 different manufacturers competing in the 24. I am having a hard time coming up with major endurance races that have had more than that.

Acura (GTD)
Aston Martin (GTD)
Audi (GTD)
BMW (GTLM, GTD)
Cadillac (P)
Chevrolet (GTLM)
Ferrari (GTLM, GTD)
Ford (GTLM)
Lamborghini (GTD)
Lexus (GTD)
Mazda (P)
Mercedes (GTD)
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I was surprised that the Cadillac gurney was kept at 30mm. And pleased, if this was an indication of a BoP strategy to equalize the class and not reward a particular entrant as often appears to be the case.
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I know the Prototypes are new, so the BoP needs finalised, but the majority of the GT3 and GTLM grids are old cars. Why are they being balanced again?
Because the designs are not stagnant - they're still being developed year after year, changing the needs of the balancing. Even the older cars often get some upgrades from one year to the next, and it only takes ONE upgraded car to need to change things for everyone.
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I kinda like it, especially the 911, as that makes more sense than "Beetle".

I also don't mind the "1X" on dirt track cars either.
Yep.

I'll be getting to the track Thursday afternoon.
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