2008 driver/team/sponsor movements??? (merged x3) - Page 49

davester · 14 Jan 2008, 09:27 (Ref:2105756)

WHAT an EMBARRASMENT FRSR is to Ford, when it's sole prodigy goes off to Holden.

Ford...cut the crap of these programs unless the muscle is there to back it up with a structured progression path (eg: karts>fford>DVS).

Ford now has nothing to show for the FRSR program in 2007...they can't even promote Caruso in any future literature or promotions due to this embarrasment.

glenn_a · 14 Jan 2008, 09:45 (Ref:2105769)

Totally agree with you davester. If they do get desperate enough there is always Denyer.

Just Do It! · 14 Jan 2008, 09:54 (Ref:2105772)

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Originally Posted by Suttory

I don't think so, it's very unlikley

The Chesters/Marley thing was done for some guy who runs a black car at the back of the NZV8 field....name escapes me.

madman16 · 14 Jan 2008, 10:12 (Ref:2105786)

Now ford have bought their current crop of drivers, are they just going to let the next group of young guns pass through like they have so in the past (Caruso, Thompson)

BlueBlood · 14 Jan 2008, 10:32 (Ref:2105798)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

The Chesters/Marley thing was done for some guy who runs a black car at the back of the NZV8 field....name escapes me.

Tim Edgell??

BlueBlood · 14 Jan 2008, 10:34 (Ref:2105800)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

well i talked to Simon via PM on V8 Central and he said that they talked to RNR about purchase but that went cold and to avoid fines they will have to show up and the support will come from them sponsers, he said see what happens in the next few days.

Surely if simon wanted this information to be made public, he would have posted it himself.

The "P" in PM stands for private, maybe it should stay this way.

WebberForWDC · 14 Jan 2008, 10:39 (Ref:2105804)

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Originally Posted by Racenut7

Enews is on now
http://enews.mnews.com.au/

The 'waxing lyrical on the 4th page ' of the top three Fujitsu pilots making the step up is truly bizarre, when all three are purchased/self-run drives.

Surely one day Macrow and Youlden will have a full time tilt for at least 3/4 of a season, every other candidate from that era has had a run (two seperate goes a season apart for Ritter, Luff, Canto, Whincup even), it's quite odd these two still haven't had a run.

blue&red · 14 Jan 2008, 10:40 (Ref:2105805)

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Originally Posted by davester

WHAT an EMBARRASMENT FRSR is to Ford, when it's sole prodigy goes off to Holden.

Ford...cut the crap of these programs unless the muscle is there to back it up with a structured progression path (eg: karts>fford>DVS).

Ford now has nothing to show for the FRSR program in 2007...they can't even promote Caruso in any future literature or promotions due to this embarrasment.

Totally agree with you here davestar, couldn't of said it better myself.

Shame isnt it. Good in theory, however does not work in practice.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Jan 2008, 10:57 (Ref:2105814)

If only life were that simple... or indeed if there were any publicity mileage in promoting the bloke who finished second

Lets see who SBR choose for 2009 when Mr Courtney moves elsewhere to see if the "Ford Youth" plan is working..

yap · 14 Jan 2008, 11:02 (Ref:2105817)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Lets see who SBR choose for 2009 when Mr Courtney moves elsewhere

Is that on the cards is it GTR ??

**GTRMagic** · 14 Jan 2008, 11:10 (Ref:2105825)

I am led to believe so... when does Mr Richards' contract at FPR end?

yap · 14 Jan 2008, 11:31 (Ref:2105835)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I am led to believe so... when does Mr Richards' contract at FPR end?

That would almost be the trigger for someone to start up a 2009 driver/team/sponsor movements thread

And only 14 days into 2008

kiwi20 · 14 Jan 2008, 11:36 (Ref:2105838)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

The Chesters/Marley thing was done for some guy who runs a black car at the back of the NZV8 field....name escapes me.

Um since when has top 15 be back off the fields.
Also Simon has asked people to design livery with certain sponsor and has said he will make sure he takes (within reason) one of the designs from the forum.

Pro Racer · 14 Jan 2008, 13:47 (Ref:2105936)

he sure is (you can check out my design here in the 2008 designs thread in the fantasy sub-forum).

he isn't being shy about the fact that this is a real possibility.

outinfront · 14 Jan 2008, 16:54 (Ref:2106031)

Quote:

Originally Posted by davester

WHAT an EMBARRASMENT FRSR is to Ford, when it's sole prodigy goes off to Holden.

Ford...cut the crap of these programs unless the muscle is there to back it up with a structured progression path (eg: karts>fford>DVS).

Ford now has nothing to show for the FRSR program in 2007...they can't even promote Caruso in any future literature or promotions due to this embarrasment.

davestar yov’ve hit the nail on the head there.

The embarrassment raised its little head around Sandown and Bathurst last year if you remember correctly. You’d assume with FRSR having ‘apparent’ ties with FPR, that FPR would assist/contribute towards the drivers. I don’t think so.

If you recall Sandown and Bathurst 07, it made the FRSR look humorous. Where were the drivers at that time, both with WPS, a non factory backed team. Seem a tad odd to you? Considering that apparently, Caruso signed first followed by Denyer. You’d think that FRSR driver would have been signed by FPR given their supposed relationship.

After looking on the FRSR website (which lacks professionalism) I read an article that contained the following exert

“The charter will be to act as the link between the development classes of motor sport such as Karting, Formula Ford, Aussie Race Cars and Utes into main series V8 Supercar competition. In addition it will enable Ford to develop and influence the careers of their potential V8 Supercar drivers of the future”.

Well if the charter is to, ‘Act as the link between the development classes........ into the main series V8 Supercar competition’ you will definitely not be receiving an Oscar for it, maybe a Golden Raspberry Award. Also in regards to developing and influencing drivers of the future, you might want to re-assess that issue as well because, I don’t think that Denyer having a dummy-spit/conniption and walking out before the end of season or Caruso signing with a Holden (GRM) isn’t very positive development or influence for Ford is it?

(Maybe Denyer could a TV show about V8SC Teams overhaul.) (Name: ”The Wheeled Biggest Looser”)

From what I hear in regards the FRSR is that a 2 year naming deal with Ford was agreed, however with rumours that Ford/FPR is re-assessing the continuation of the deal after 08 I’m not too sure how long it (FRSR) will remain under direction of Mr Morton. A presumption that FPR will be hand-in-hand (over-see) FRSR in the future is inevitable.

I understand that people will state that if it wasn’t for Mr Morton giving Caruso an opportunity, then he would not have had the opportunity to sign with GRM. But if it wasn’t for Caruso’s results (2006 Privateers Cup, 2nd place in Championship 2007) then it would be only fair to say that Mr Morton wouldn’t have achieved /had the commercial feasibility for sponsorship. Looking at FRSR’s current position it seems that problems persist with the inability to retain such sponsors.

Since firstly hearing/seeing Caruso’s name back when he drove karts, I have watched him progress into a young man and believe that he deserves the opportunities unreservedly, knowing he’ll do the job right.

PS Note to: Ford Rising Stars Racing, may I suggest that amendments are made to your website within the very near future as it doesn’t look professional (especially to a prospective sponsor) when it contains incorrect (old) information. ie Incorrect Drivers, Sponsors, etc, etc

STEVO · 14 Jan 2008, 22:56 (Ref:2106240)

This is nothing new though?

Remember 1998's "Generation XR Program"? Features superstars such as Adam Macrow and Darren Hossack?

A 12-24 months later, BOTH drivers were trundling around in Holdens at Bathurst.

Macrow co-drove the Komatsu Ford with Alan Jones in 98 and then with Longhurst in 99. But after that he was driving a John Faulkner car the year later ... why?

What happened to Generation XR?

Ford Racing policy ... always has been a shame.

Axeman444 · 15 Jan 2008, 01:25 (Ref:2106312)

new points system announced only paying to 30th. admission of there being only 30 cars in the field already (widely anticipated, but not officially confirmed)???

Racenut7 · 15 Jan 2008, 02:14 (Ref:2106334)

because on enews FRSR might hop in the main series mid season.

Axeman444 · 15 Jan 2008, 03:13 (Ref:2106349)

no if that was the case then why make it 30 positions for the whole year?

Racenut7 · 15 Jan 2008, 03:45 (Ref:2106356)

because FRSR has to get reddy.

Axeman444 · 15 Jan 2008, 05:45 (Ref:2106382)

so why stop there with TKR, Walden and 2x PWR not finalised (some may not be running at all), and the TDK/Longhurst/RNR license still with a rather dark cloud overhead?

Pro Racer · 15 Jan 2008, 05:52 (Ref:2106386)

i think TKR are now all but confirmed for Clipsal, but i wouldn't rule out only 28 for Adelaide atleast even though eNews said 29.

Axeman444 · 15 Jan 2008, 06:15 (Ref:2106392)

and why put that there are no points for positions 31 & 32? why not just stop the list at 30/29/28/whatever

Axeman444 · 17 Jan 2008, 03:14 (Ref:2107739)

anyone else have difficulties accessing SBR website? could be some work happening on the site...

sizzle · 17 Jan 2008, 03:27 (Ref:2107745)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

anyone else have difficulties accessing SBR website? ...

Nup

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