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Old 20 Dec 2018, 14:07 (Ref:3871653)   #16
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Actually the very opposite is true. Every tiny slip of the tongue is jumped on as a personal insult by those primed to take offence. As Mr Corbyn is finding....

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This whole thing has gone too far, but if you lived next door to the Hamilton household in Stevenage I suppose one might take offence, It is possible that the garden was full of old mattresses, broken wheel barrows, bald car tyres etc., etc.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 14:41 (Ref:3871663)   #17
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It wasn't a slip of the tongue - he just doesn't have the capacity to appreciate what he is saying. And it's not the first time that he has used the same type of thought, either. Have you forgotten about his "attack" on Nico Rosberg a couple of years ago, trying to claim some sort of moral high ground because Nico had been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, whilst he, Hamilton, had come from a deprived background.

By the way, having in and around Stevenage for 20 odd years, I can tell you that there are no slums. Yes like virtually any town or city in the UK, some parts are better/nicer than others, but none of it can remotely be compared to a slum.

And to add a little, once he had latched on to Ron Dennis' coat tail (before he was even in to his teens, if I remember correctly) he actually ceased to live in Stevenage. In fact his father recently sold the family home in Tewin, which is a few miles from Stevenage, and got a figure not far removed from the multi million pound asking price. And I don't think that his very well heeled former neighbours appreciated the are being likened to a slum!
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 14:45 (Ref:3871664)   #18
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Big Tesco? What more could a town aspire to.

Weíve got a small Lidl- not sure where that leaves us..... (OK and a medium JS, but that would spoil the comparison. )
Shouldn't the correct description be 'a little Lidl' Mike?
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 15:52 (Ref:3871673)   #19
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It's the worst when an impoverished kid latches on to a rich person. Its so dickensian it makes me sick. It really ruins the holidays am I right?

But for real, that a thread can be started with such an overt amount of hate, without a link, without a purpose but to slag on someone and be allowed to continue is beyond me.

Is this the community we want?

Anyways if this kind of veiled trash is allowed to be posted then I'm free to stand up against it right?
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 15:59 (Ref:3871675)   #20
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This whole thing has gone too far, but if you lived next door to the Hamilton household in Stevenage I suppose one might take offence, It is possible that the garden was full of old mattresses, broken wheel barrows, bald car tyres etc., etc.
Shoot have you been Streetview-ing my house?

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Old 20 Dec 2018, 16:24 (Ref:3871678)   #21
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It wasn't a slip of the tongue - he just doesn't have the capacity to appreciate what he is saying. And it's not the first time that he has used the same type of thought, either. Have you forgotten about his "attack" on Nico Rosberg a couple of years ago, trying to claim some sort of moral high ground because Nico had been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, whilst he, Hamilton, had come from a deprived background.
iíll bite.

your use of ďnot having the capacityĒ is a tiny smidge off the mark. what he lacks is context and perspective. he hasnít always lacked that - heís clearly lived in a bubble, in a very small world that is an echo chamber of his choosing. weíre all guilty of that - we pick and choose friends, people to follow on social media, news sources...

the rosberg thing had a point, but he articulated it badly. he clearly understood the relative context of what he was saying. i think thatís his mistake - he speaks to journalists who will use his words how they want to, or speaks directly to people through social media or tv and canít articulate concepts without offending someone.

thatís an education thing, i think. a good education teaches you critical thinking, context, and not just vocabulary but the ability to describe and apply language in a complicated way. thatís something you see with people who fall through the gaps in the education system - very smart people who can understand complicated concepts but who struggle to use language to describe or explain themselves. iím not saying heís a highly intelligent person or whatever, iím just explaining how disconnects come about.

where nico was incredibly fortunate was that his education was different - heís clearly a smart guy, but his background and education allowed him to develop his intelligence and learn to use it. for whatever reason, lewis only ended up getting a decent education for a single year to pass a few gcses.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 17:29 (Ref:3871684)   #22
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he did apparently mean to say ďthe sticksĒ which is still funny cause stevenage has and always will be a london dormitory town which means itís pretty well connected. and you know, itís got a big tescos and everything

heís harmless. heís out there living his best life, heís a good ambassador for the sport and unlike some others, he cares about things that arenít just f1 cars. he wears the heck out of any strange things he ends up leaving the house in, so fair play to him.

arguably thereís not a lot of clean living role models out there for young people at the moment (see: the entertainment industry) so someone who keeps his private life under control and doesnít go around acting like a real ASBO just because heís rich is worth respecting.

and before anyone grumbles, what youíd consider uncouth behaviour or poor manners and some out there fashion choices is not worth legions of kids withdrawing their support for him
I like all this, but I reserve the right to comment on his attire. Not that Iím well dressed or anything, far from it.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 17:33 (Ref:3871685)   #23
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Actually the very opposite is true. Every tiny slip of the tongue is jumped on as a personal insult by those primed to take offence. As Mr Corbyn is finding....

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I think weíve even moved on to post-offence now. Where news is generated to attract those who get offended that some people might be offended (whether they are or not) at something inconsequential. Itís clickbait.
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 17:37 (Ref:3871686)   #24
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thatís an education thing, i think. a good education teaches you critical thinking, context, and not just vocabulary but the ability to describe and apply language in a complicated way. thatís something you see with people who fall through the gaps in the education system - very smart people who can understand complicated concepts but who struggle to use language to describe or explain themselves. iím not saying heís a highly intelligent person or whatever, iím just explaining how disconnects come about.
Good point. Thing is itís not just the education of those saying it, but also of (all) those reading it. Itís a joint responsibility. You see it here weíre people arenít willing to put in the effort to understand others. Trouble is with Lewis millions of people read his words and newspapers report them to attract readers.
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For the record, it's another classic case of people getting offended for the sake of it in 2018.

It's fashionable to be outraged over something these days.
Exactly so. For crying out loud get over it. Can't you tell it's the close season......
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It wasn't a slip of the tongue - he just doesn't have the capacity to appreciate what he is saying. And it's not the first time that he has used the same type of thought, either. Have you forgotten about his "attack" on Nico Rosberg a couple of years ago, trying to claim some sort of moral high ground
If someone lacks the capacity to appreciate what they are saying, how can they have the capacity to formulate an 'attack' through their opinions about standards of upbringing?

Either he knows what he is saying and it's calculated, or he doesn't and it's naievity.
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Once again I am sorry my little 'joke' has misfired, however, the way I have read this thread is that it is the 'Hamilton Lovers' who have made most of the running in making it become a battleground.
Not even I am above criticism, so why should Lewis not get his share without people interpreting even the slightest slight, as a 'vicious hate crime'.

Moderation on all sides should be the rule.

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Old 20 Dec 2018, 19:21 (Ref:3871700)   #28
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Old 20 Dec 2018, 20:13 (Ref:3871702)   #30
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I like all this, but I reserve the right to comment on his attire. Not that I’m well dressed or anything, far from it.
oh totally. he looks like he takes fashion inspiration from the women out of "dallas" (the original one) sometimes. but... well fair play to him for doing it anyway
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Once again I am sorry my little 'joke' has misfired, however, the way I have read this thread is that it is the 'Hamilton Lovers' who have made most of the running in making it become a battleground.
Not even I am above criticism, so why should Lewis not get his share without people interpreting even the slightest slight, as a 'vicious hate crime'.
presuming i'm one of those "hamilton lovers", then actually i think it's only right to put both sides of a discussion, particularly on a discussion forum. i can't be doing with people who either think someone's the devil or an angel. they must know very little of human beings.
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