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Old 18 Oct 2019, 11:00 (Ref:3935395)   #26
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And, if I remember correctly, it was brought forward a couple of weeks in 1986 in order to avoid a clash with, IIRC, the French Open Tennis. That was useful since my children were all at school in those days and the new date coincided with school holidays.
Yes, that was my first LM. May 31st/June 1st......
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Old 18 Oct 2019, 13:07 (Ref:3935421)   #27
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I think RTLM is more interesting that the Ferrari and Aston stuff certainly. Variety is one thing (and I respect that you value that a lot), but my biggest issue with the races is they are just thoroughly unimpressive to watch trackside. The driving talent skews waaaaay towards the AM side of the spectrum.

I think the best support race I remember in my nine years was the 2014 Carrera Cup event. And I think a lot of that boiled down to the driving talent on display that day.

Found this video when Googling the year - https://youtu.be/olEYg62Y7RQ

When I was watching that it felt like it actually mattered who won it.
The said '14 Cup event was somewhat reminiscent of the massive Porsche support race for N24 in 2011, you know the one that had Porsche Supercup integrating with various national championships at Nordschleife... they shoulde have more stuff like that

Anyway if they got Masters Endurance Legends, I think they'd have bit more actual pros in it than in the rotating Legends races of Group C and 1949-65 period... at Silverstone Classic, the cars seemed to be going wheel to wheel quite a few times
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Old 18 Oct 2019, 14:54 (Ref:3935449)   #28
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I think RTLM is more interesting that the Ferrari and Aston stuff certainly. Variety is one thing (and I respect that you value that a lot), but my biggest issue with the races is they are just thoroughly unimpressive to watch trackside. The driving talent skews waaaaay towards the AM side of the spectrum.

I think the best support race I remember in my nine years was the 2014 Carrera Cup event. And I think a lot of that boiled down to the driving talent on display that day.

Found this video when Googling the year - https://youtu.be/olEYg62Y7RQ

When I was watching that it felt like it actually mattered who won it.
Agree with all of that.

That 2014 Porsche race was the combined France and UK Carrera Cups, right? With a bit of imagination they could create some one-off special events like that. Maybe French Carrera Cup combined with that Ligier two class series or something else random like that. Why not?

https://ligiereuropeanseries.com/

As for a longer RTLM race, I think the reason they went for two short races was so that they wouldn't have to refuel. Too difficult to accommodate in the pitlane that close to the start of the main race.
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Old 19 Oct 2019, 10:52 (Ref:3935611)   #29
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Only if they move the morning practice session to an hour later. Late night on the Friday in preparation for the long night Saturday makes a lie in all the better.
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Old 19 Oct 2019, 15:53 (Ref:3935648)   #30
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Just don't have a late night on Friday..... For those who do the Saturday/Sunday all-nighter, a decent amount of sleep on Friday night is essential....
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Old 21 Oct 2019, 12:33 (Ref:3936062)   #32
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Yes meet could drift on a bit, but for those of us that head home Sunday, a little bit more of a rush to hit the coast in time to get the ferries/tunnels.
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Old 21 Oct 2019, 12:55 (Ref:3936067)   #33
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Old 22 Oct 2019, 17:52 (Ref:3936278)   #34
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Old 22 Oct 2019, 18:03 (Ref:3936281)   #35
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Each to their own, have stayed Sunday night a couple of times in the past and to be honest i have no reason to be back on Monday. However i always feel that after the race i just want to get home.
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I don’t like the 4pm start either. Makes for too much waiting around on Sat, though I might eat those words if something substantial like a proper Masters Endurance race is added.

I also always fly home from 24H races on Sunday. I have a long list of races I want to attend and not unlimited holiday so not having to take Mon off helps. In fact for Spa 24H next year I’m not taking Fri off either - in on Sat, out on Sun - but crowds, long drive from Paris CDG and a desire to watch warm-up mean I’ll always travel to Le Mans on the Friday.
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Each to their own, have stayed Sunday night a couple of times in the past and to be honest i have no reason to be back on Monday. However i always feel that after the race i just want to get home.
For me Simon, it's a case of being totally spent after the race. I struggled to stay awake 30 years ago when I was a lot younger than I am now and there's no way I could drive straight back afterwards. The Sunday evening is actually very pleasant, an early meal then straight to bed to catch up on shuteye. Then of course there's the inevitable wall-to-wall sunshine for the journey back on Monday......
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Yep there is the sunshine after the race, but i am hoping the sun will sun for 24 hours next year.
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Hopefully not - the night time is not the same if fully lit
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For those of us in Australia/Asia, the delayed start time pushes the start of the telecast back to 10pm - midnight. 3pm is definitely better.
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with another hour, some might not see the start of the race.
Don't you agree, Helen?
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