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Ask those at Australian circuits who work with V8SA during championship rounds, they are a pain in backside however it is one of those things that have to be done for now. Without Government monetary injections, there is no guarantee of making money on a v8 race and thats exactly why V8SA chase government money at every chance. |
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A predictable post that shows little to no understanding of what it is to be an independant racing circuit in Australia at the moment.
To think that V8 events as cash cows for these circuits naive and largely out of touch, which to be honest represents the position of the current V8 hierachy. Cry ARDC connection all you want Baz, I am more than happy dispell that for you. My suggestion would be to get down to your local circuit (not street circuit) and see how the real world operates. |
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If I am so wrong why is it that your mob at The Creek would instantly put their hand up for a round if available?? Winton is the same and as for QR, it is common industry knowledge that old mate JT wants the Supercars and pulls the "we don’t need them" crap every time he is up for contract, and miraculously at the last minute signs... Negativity breeds negativity as you would know as you wallow in it. I have a very healthy and in many instances direct understanding of independent racing circuits all over the country (frequented dozens of them in various capacities from competitor to commercial association, employment as well as spectator) and not just road racing facilities, unlike your singular track (blinkered) focus. They all face their challenges and issues but are business, each and every one of them. In business it is never smart to bag the opposition or those who lead the industry as it closes doors. While ever the voice of Eastern Creek is in tune with the grey dribble you love to regurgitate, the door will stay bolted shut. P.S Out of curiosity, when was the last time you went to Carrick Speedway, The Motorplex or Morgan park??? What’s that... never. I thought so. |
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The problem for the permanent circuits is they need to make money from high profile events to help make a proper return on investment.
The V8 supertaxis have followed Bernies lead in skewering governments( state and local) to fork out ridiculous amounts for sanctioning rights that makes it impossible for a permanent circuit to compete for an event. The follow thru is that the rest of motorsport gets what out of this-certainly not upgraded facilities at the permanent circuits as circuit owners adopt a user pays system to balance the budget. None of this is exactly an incentive for any investor in a new circuit which would benefit the whole motorsport community. What I can never understand is how TC can extract so much money to make ridiculous profits and use an entirely unpaid amateur work force that does all the work on the ground. |
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Well, that is what the asking price to at least two different parties was about 2 and a half years ago. Like Basil said, it was a bit of a moving target though.
Both parties ended up putting it in the "too hard" basket due to the constant movement on the deal. |
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There is an update on the 7 News tonight about the Paperclips facility's...
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Tony C said the Clip is provisional on them upgrading the facility's...
John Tetley replied he is a one man show and cannot afford $5millon. |
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Fair enough, on both parts.
Maybe he should buy the Oran Park pit lane buildings? Wouldn't have to be a genius to work that one out. Perich probably wants $5 Mil for it and Tetley is probably happy to part with $5 |
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So exactly what is the "facilities upgrade" that VESA are demanding ?.
If it's just the removal of the bumps, well that can't cost $5M. Do they want flash corporate facilities ?, fancy toilets for the punters ?, four-lane highway to the front gate ?, maybe a hill in the middle of the track (already designed) ?. Remember that JT does not own the venue, he is just the leaseholder, so any "improvements" would have to be in his interests as well as VESA, without being seen to be dipping into public funds to make a private profit. VESA and JT seem to be united on the push to secure some public funding to help "motorsport" at Willowbank. Not so long ago they seemed to have nothing nice to say about each other. |
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is it possible they want pit facility improvements as well?
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Is it necessary?
I mean apart for a vanity project of V8SA? Is the current pit hurting the event or participants? |
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And they tipped in for the Lakeside makeover too - via Qld Motorways (a wholly owned Government Company - well, at the moment anyways).
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