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Old 11 Mar 2003, 02:35 (Ref:532333)   #1
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McLaren's latest innovation

Great new innovation by the Macs....curved edges on both sides of the rear wing elements. That's what i love most about formula1, teams like McLaren and Ferrari always trying and coming out with new ideas.

Last year...one of the most significant was Ferrari's periscope sgape exhaust exits that nearly all except for Sauber and the Macs didn't adopt. Those designs would add to more downforce and would make a difference on high downforce circuits like Melbourne.

But the Macs have an even better solution...not wanting to copy the Ferraris, with the new shape of those rear wings...a more concentrated and condensed flow of air which significantly contributes to more level of downforce generated.

I can't find a better of close up picture of the rear wing...
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 02:36 (Ref:532334)   #2
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Re: McLaren's latest innovation

another one...compared to the Ferrari
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 02:49 (Ref:532345)   #3
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Oh, it was an innovation?

I thought someone had just sat on them.
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 07:41 (Ref:532438)   #4
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Yeah, nice wings, I noticed that. I can't wait to see the MP4/18.
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 07:55 (Ref:532441)   #5
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From memory, the BARs had them too. Or at least the wing that Crompton showed during one of the pit-pass segments did.
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 09:00 (Ref:532464)   #6
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Dale Jr...I can't paste the same pic on the forum but is this the one you saw?. If it's not, remember which race and what year was it?
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 09:13 (Ref:532471)   #7
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No Jukes. They had a wing similar to the Mac wing last weekend in Melbourne.
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 09:24 (Ref:532476)   #8
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Nope...not the same, may looked like it but it's because of the placed small plane infront.
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 09:51 (Ref:532484)   #9
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Very similar. Same idea but with the addition of the BAR "endplate slot".
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I am really, really excited about the coming season in terms of McLaren's prospects for glory. And I have been since the middle of winter testing. My pick was Kimi to win the first race as early as December, and well, nearly....
No more Ferrari domination I think. It's finally come to an end and now we are in for an exciting season to say the very least!!

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Glen, you beat me to it!!
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Old 11 Mar 2003, 22:27 (Ref:533269)   #12
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Jukebox: I was going to post a topic on EXACTLY THIS, but I didn't know which forum to plonk it in!! You have good taste!!

I LOVE the new triple-element rear wing on the Mac. It looks GORGEOUS. The new Mac is going to be AMAZING. BRING IT OUT!! NOW!!
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Old 12 Mar 2003, 20:40 (Ref:534234)   #13
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McLaren look to be very strong this year. The new car is supposed to be very innovative. Maybe those rear wings are a preview of whats to come...
Also, I just read that the new engine in the MP4-18 makes 930hp.(F1live.com) WOW!!
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I wonder how long it would take before the HP's of the N/A 3.0 engines will match the Turbo 1.5 ones (1400 BHP in Quali trim!)

3-4 years perhaps?
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I think a lot more than 3-4 years. In the last 3-4 years they haven't gained 200bhp. The Renault had approximately 750bhp in 1995.

That's 180bhp in 8 or 9 years. 1400bhp is still a couple of decades off! and, of course, it si diminishing returns until someone comes up with that next new idea (if it is out there and allowed by the rules!)

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