North of England Single Seater Race Series 2005

diz · 10 Oct 2004, 13:15 (Ref:1120297)

Just flying a kite here, but I would like to gauge the support for a series of Northern races along the lines of the old Formula Libre.
If it is a single seater - but not FF1600 - it is eligible.
Classes could be something like :-
A) over 2000cc
B) 1601-2000cc
C) upto 1600cc
D) over 1000c bike engined
E) under 1000cc bike engined
Venues could include Anglesey, Cadwell, Croft, Kirkistown, Knockhill and Oulton.

Ian Sowman · 10 Oct 2004, 17:57 (Ref:1120408)

Just pondering here - would the easiest thing to do be to take the same regulations as, say, BARC SE use and have a standard set of regional single-seater championships across the country?

bzzzracing · 10 Oct 2004, 18:43 (Ref:1120438)

I would be interested in this and know of least 2 others who would be also.

andy97 · 10 Oct 2004, 19:21 (Ref:1120461)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian Sowman
Just pondering here - would the easiest thing to do be to take the same regulations as, say, BARC SE use and have a standard set of regional single-seater championships across the country?

I definately think that the BARC-SEC single seater regs are worth investigating for regional single seater racing. If my move to Scotland comes off I would be interested in such races at Knockhill and if I stay in the midlands then the same applies for that region!

JohnMiller · 11 Oct 2004, 07:11 (Ref:1120815)

It you go to Cadwell, and if he doesn't take the **** on the price, I'll bring Gavin's Simtek out.

kickstart · 11 Oct 2004, 07:17 (Ref:1120818)

Diz, there has been lots of talk about F3000's and euroboss being too expensive- why not allow single seaters up to 3000CC and see if any come out to play. I would imagine that they could be silenced.

andy97 · 12 Oct 2004, 08:55 (Ref:1121870)

Quote:

Originally posted by kickstart
Diz, there has been lots of talk about F3000's and euroboss being too expensive- why not allow single seaters up to 3000CC and see if any come out to play. I would imagine that they could be silenced.

Crikey. Is the sort of speed differential that the involvement of Boss type cars on track at the same time a s F Fords, for example, wise? Perhaps a better solution would be to have an over 2 litre and an under 2 litre "open single seater challenge"

JustinDawkins · 12 Oct 2004, 12:38 (Ref:1122100)

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnMiller
It you go to Cadwell, and if he doesn't take the **** on the price, I'll bring Gavin's Simtek out.

he will and you can't......theres a 2 litre limit for single seaters at Cadwell isn't there?

Ian Sowman · 12 Oct 2004, 14:04 (Ref:1122195)

I believe you are correct Justin.

JEB · 12 Oct 2004, 16:18 (Ref:1122335)

My half penny for what it is worth...

Run a series on a loose set of regulations, allowing in as many cars as possible (not F3000 or Boss cars) and see how much interest you get.

It may well work - but from my experience it seems difficult to get drivers excited about their own series, let alone a new one.

But - I am a great believer in 'nothing ventured nothing gained'.

The WHT grew out of an idea I had in the pub with a friend who didn't understand what I was on about, and look at it now....

JohnMiller · 13 Oct 2004, 06:59 (Ref:1122918)

Quote:

Originally posted by JustinDawkins
he will and you can't......theres a 2 litre limit for single seaters at Cadwell isn't there?

*******s.
What about test days?

JustinDawkins · 13 Oct 2004, 08:13 (Ref:1122954)

Guess its the same?

Simtek + Cadwell = hospital!

JohnMiller · 13 Oct 2004, 08:29 (Ref:1122957)

No, no, no - think about the Mountain and Hall Bends in an F1 car!

JustinDawkins · 13 Oct 2004, 08:35 (Ref:1122962)

You wouldn't see hall bends - they would just be a bump! Think the mountain sectio would be a bit narrow for an F1 (not sure you would even get round the hairpin?)?

Gooseneck, coppice and charlies would be fantastic though!!!!!!!!

dogsbody · 13 Oct 2004, 17:14 (Ref:1123473)

Cadwell has a 1800cc limit on the track licence for single seaters if my memory serves, HOWEVER, when necessary the MSA provides a track licence waiver to enable bigger engined cars to race there. So please check it out before you cross us off your list.

Ian Sowman · 13 Oct 2004, 18:17 (Ref:1123510)

A case in point would be the F4 race a couple of weeks ago...

Old Ropey · 22 Oct 2004, 22:12 (Ref:1132445)

Has the class structure been decided yet? and is it likely to go ahead. We'd be very interested to run 2 Jedis, save trudging down to Brands, and almost everywhere else.

Mackmot · 22 Oct 2004, 23:00 (Ref:1132482)

I think its a great idea it would really help the industry up this way if there was more racing accross the whole of the north. Over our way its a bit difficult to get passing trade for single seaters when nothing really runs at Croft and all the NWFF guys dont want to travel over the mig mountainous bit in the middle.

Walshy · 25 Oct 2004, 23:22 (Ref:1135816)

I think Croft is great and should be added to our Calendar.

From the centre of Manchester, it's 1 1/2 hours with trailer. Nearer than Anglesey, but I like going there as well. When we came to Croft back in 2000, we were really well received and well looked after.

Get on it Diz. Can we have Croft on next years calendar. Remember when you first mentioned Anglesey and there was a lot of reservations. If your chasing a championship, then you need to go. Well, the same could be done with Croft. The problem with this years visit was it wasn't a Championship round, so nobody would go.

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