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Old 12 Jul 2018, 15:42 (Ref:3836315)   #1
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Worst Touring Car Drivers

First and foremost, I mean worst BTCC Drivers but other under-performing Drivers from Touring Car Series are welcome too.
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Old 12 Jul 2018, 22:05 (Ref:3836390)   #2
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I'll start with G1 BSCC days.

Phil Martin-Dye was a waste of a front running Spice Racing Capri drive in '81.

In the Group A years,the late Barry Sheene was pretty poor in the '85 Celica Supra.
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Old 12 Jul 2018, 22:12 (Ref:3836394)   #3
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I arrived at the same time as the 2 Litre era.

Geoff Steel in 1994, finished no higher than 18th all season, only Ian Khan did worse but he at least scored a point the previous year.
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Old 12 Jul 2018, 22:14 (Ref:3836396)   #4
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I wasnít yet born when Sheene raced in 85, but I think he got a few top 3s before he had that crash at Thruxton.

Going by 1991-now, Iíd say Russell Spence seemed incapable of keeping the car on the track and had quite a few prangs as a result. Being out of racing since 93 really seemed to show.

And what about Farique Hariuman? The Proton was never the best car in the series, but still, he couldnít even get a single point out of it. Compare to how his team mate SWS occasionally got the car perhaps higher up than it should have been and you see what a waste of a works drive to have Farique in the car
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Geoff Steel in 1994, finished no higher than 18th all season, only Ian Khan did worse but he at least scored a point the previous year.


Geoff seemed to have a few incidents and to be fair to Khan he only did half a season. He had one race in a Toyota, where he did quite well, then switched back to the Vauxhall, before leaving the series mid season. Geoff Steel though seemed unable of challenging the top privateers though
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I wasn’t yet born when Sheene raced in 85, but I think he got a few top 3s before he had that crash at Thruxton.

Going by 1991-now, I’d say Russell Spence seemed incapable of keeping the car on the track and had quite a few prangs as a result. Being out of racing since 93 really seemed to show.

And what about Farique Hariuman? The Proton was never the best car in the series, but still, he couldn’t even get a single point out of it. Compare to how his team mate SWS occasionally got the car perhaps higher up than it should have been and you see what a waste of a works drive to have Farique in the car
Oh Farique Hairuman, as out of his depth in BTCC as his countryman Alex Yoong was in F1.

Steve Robertson in 1996, the Mondeo may have been a dog but just 2 10th places and ranked lower than Independents and a Nissan driver?

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Steve Robertson really couldnít have joined Ford at a worse time. Really it was a good job they had Radisich in the car to drag results out of it. The only upshot was the Ford seemed more consistent over a race distance than in 95
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I'll start with G1 BSCC days.

Phil Martin-Dye was a waste of a front running Spice Racing Capri drive in '81.

In the Group A years,the late Barry Sheene was pretty poor in the '85 Celica Supra.
I don't remember Barry Sheene being that rubbish. He was also a great showman/entertainer too, always giving the crowd value for money. There was a race at Oulton Park where he had to pit in the early laps (misfire maybe?) and he came back out later and waited for the front runners to have a great dice with them (Rouse & The Brode if I remember correctly) for a few laps, he was on their pace and very entertaining.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touring_car_racing
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I don't remember Barry Sheene being that rubbish. He was also a great showman/entertainer too, always giving the crowd value for money. There was a race at Oulton Park where he had to pit in the early laps (misfire maybe?) and he came back out later and waited for the front runners to have a great dice with them (Rouse & The Brode if I remember correctly) for a few laps, he was on their pace and very entertaining.


In fact I found out today Bazza was on pole for that Oulton race, so who knows what could have happened if he didnít have that mechanical problem
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In fact I found out today Bazza was on pole for that Oulton race, so who knows what could have happened if he didnít have that mechanical problem
4 podiums as well, that's respectable.
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Judging by the tags - btcc, wtcc, etcc and dtm cars.... (but only those cars, no other forms of touring car exist)
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What are Touring Cars....
If you follow the official name, those are sedans 2 or 4 doors homologated with room for 4 people, modified or heavily modified to adapt them to track use. Jags, Ford Mustang, Comet, Escort or Sierra RS, Rovers, Opels or Vauxhalls, Mercedes, Bimmers and so on. Assuming your question was a genuine one.
Those categories was a good opportunity for car makers to promote their road going models. Which had few to do with the racing models but their external appearance.
When chunderer says G1, he means Group1, car looking like a "normal" car.
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If you follow the official name, those are sedans 2 or 4 doors homologated with room for 4 people, modified or heavily modified to adapt them to track use. Jags, Ford Mustang, Comet, Escort or Sierra RS, Rovers, Opels or Vauxhalls, Mercedes, Bimmers and so on. Assuming your question was a genuine one.
Those categories was a good opportunity for car makers to promote their road going models. Which had few to do with the racing models but their external appearance.
When chunderer says G1, he means Group1, car looking like a "normal" car.
Back on subject, Stewart Lines, bless him.
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