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Old 7 Feb 2017, 23:09 (Ref:3710834)   #391
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GT4 - The future...?

It's a sure thing, Camaro GT4!

https://twitter.com/teamchevy/status/829110839399493632


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Old 8 Feb 2017, 13:27 (Ref:3710970)   #392
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And here's the first official pic and press release. Stevenson and Black Dog at PWC next month

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/ctscc/c...-camaro-gt4-r/


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Old 8 Feb 2017, 14:49 (Ref:3710982)   #393
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GTS in PWC is shaping up nicely, looking forward to see the new cars in action next month!

Now we need the new BMW and Mercedes cars to join as well.
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Old 8 Feb 2017, 17:13 (Ref:3710997)   #394
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I'm guessing the Cobra GT4 that DSC mentioned might be shown at Autosport Show never surfaced?
Hearing there might be an update about this at the end of this month.
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Old 8 Feb 2017, 21:21 (Ref:3711053)   #395
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Now we just need Chrysler to throw their hat in the ring.
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Now we just need Chrysler to throw their hat in the ring.


Their smallest model is the 200? Hardly a GT car


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Old 9 Feb 2017, 09:39 (Ref:3711180)   #397
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Their smallest model is the 200? Hardly a GT car
I was hinting that they should be doing the Challenger. Ford's doing the Mustang, GM's doing the Camaro. If Chrysler pops on, we not only get a fresh war of the pony cars, but they at the same time get to do battle with some big names in the sportscar and track day special markets. That's TWO battles I'd love to see go on at the same time.
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Old 9 Feb 2017, 12:40 (Ref:3711219)   #398
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I was hinting that they should be doing the Challenger. Ford's doing the Mustang, GM's doing the Camaro. If Chrysler pops on, we not only get a fresh war of the pony cars, but they at the same time get to do battle with some big names in the sportscar and track day special markets. That's TWO battles I'd love to see go on at the same time.


Duh, I thought you meant Chrysler directly not Dodge.

That battle would be immense.

I would love to see the challenger in GT4, and a new GT3 Viper back

But that's wishful thinking maybe!!


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Old 9 Feb 2017, 12:58 (Ref:3711222)   #399
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The Challenger is hardly a good platform for building a GT racer from I think. It's quite old really, and quite heavy. If I remember correctly, when Blackforest tried to run the car in GS they really struggled to get weight out of the car and, if I'm thinking of the right car, had to also have a special aluminum block based engine built for it for it as apparently the 3rd gen Hemi wasn't a good basis for building a reliable road racing motor.

I also think that Chrysler themselves would have no interest in it either, as they don't seem at all interested in trying to make it an even halfway decent "sporty car". While Chevy and Ford actually have track packages and work on chassis development and such, Dodge just throws a supercharger on it and gives it an extreme sounding name to give it "badass points" and totally ignore all other aspects of performance.

Next Challenger isn't even supposed to be unveiled until 2020 or something like that, so I don't see anything happening with it any time soon.

I'd love to be wrong though, that rivalry would be great for North American racing I think, and if promoted correctly could help put eyes on the series.

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The Challenger is hardly a good platform for building a GT racer from I think. It's quite old really, and quite heavy. If I remember correctly, when Blackforest tried to run the car in GS they really struggled to get weight out of the car and, if I'm thinking of the right car, had to also have a special aluminum block based engine built for it for it as apparently the 3rd gen Hemi wasn't a good basis for building a reliable road racing motor.

I also think that Chrysler themselves would have no interest in it either, as they don't seem at all interested in trying to make it an even halfway decent "sporty car". While Chevy and Ford actually have track packages and work on chassis development and such, Dodge just throws a supercharger on it and gives it an extreme sounding name to give it "badass points" and totally ignore all other aspects of performance.

Next Challenger isn't even supposed to be unveiled until 2020 or something like that, so I don't see anything happening with it any time soon.

I'd love to be wrong though, that rivalry would be great for North American racing I think, and if promoted correctly could help put eyes on the series.


Totally agree with the sensibilities of your points

If it was feasible it'd be great, but your more than likely right about it being too heavy. Driven one for a few weeks and they are tanks.

But hey, the Viper would be a nice GT4, but that's probably not going to happen either

Chrysler if you're listening, get on board!


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The Challenger is hardly a good platform for building a GT racer from I think. It's quite old really, and quite heavy. If I remember correctly, when Blackforest tried to run the car in GS they really struggled to get weight out of the car and, if I'm thinking of the right car, had to also have a special aluminum block based engine built for it for it as apparently the 3rd gen Hemi wasn't a good basis for building a reliable road racing motor.
IMO, Blackforest isn't the best yardstick for developmental capacity(not saying they were BAD, just that they're not the top dog).

The Camaro frankly isn't a much better base for a GT car - the GS Camaro never exactly blew away the competition, though later developments made it a competitive GT4 car, and GM's regular development of the road car has now generated a version of it that make a much better GT4 base.

If Chrysler put their all into it, I've no doubt the Challenger could be made into a really good GT4 car.
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The Challenger is just a two door Charger/300.

Nice looking car, but it is really lazy of Chrysler to not have a dedicated platform for their challenger.
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The Challenger is just a two door Charger/300
Which, honestly, is NOT a bad platform to build off of - though far from a shining beacon of awesomeness as a base for a racing machine. It's not something that's going to be easy to make a road racer, but it can certainly be done if the right people are put behind it.
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Been a while, but finally a nice looking racecar from Panoz again:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...aks-cover.html
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Been a while, but finally a nice looking racecar from Panoz again:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...aks-cover.html
I wish I could go back to 2008, too.
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