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Speed Comparison - NASCAR vs V8 Supercar
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/04/24/...-car-swap-has/
no video's except boring interviews, but I think you would back the V8 to post faster lap times even with Kurt in it. |
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Most circuit racing series would easily outrun a NASCAR lap-time wise on a road circuit.
Here is a reference point for their speed compared to a V8, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4v237dss9Q |
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24 Apr 2013, 10:00 (Ref:3238807) | #3 | |
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footage from the track
Kurt suggest that the NASCAR is quicker in straight line, but doesnt handle as well |
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Seems like an utterly meaningless comparison. NASCAR is designed to run at high speed on banked ovals, making occasional forays onto road courses. V8s would thrash them at a road course but wouldn't get near them at Charlotte. Or last very long, I imagine.
You may as well ask which is faster - V8 Supercar or Boeing 747. The airplane is going to be rubbish at Bathurst but performs better at 30,000ft. |
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actually woolley. very important comparison. both are based on the holden commodore.
I think though that its all about promotion though, trying create interest in the USA and also here |
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Not having yet watched any of the videos, I'm assuming the NASCAR was a roadcourse variant, yes? |
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Semantics.
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actually its not. Too leave out that sentence changed the whole discussion. It was integral to the line of the discussion
Lets not play word games though. Lets Discuss the NASCAR/V8Supercar comparison. Speedcafe has apage where you can compare the cars against each other with a little slider. Both look very similar across the front Last edited by peckstar; 25 Apr 2013 at 01:28. |
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Interesting, lets make a petition to bring Nascar (the real one) here 10 secs off the pace, but seeing the COT breaking track records everywhere this year, they'd be much quicker. As peck said its promo stunt, and I see it nothing more than a v8 against a sprint cup car on an awesome track, wasn't much commotion about the F1 vs v8 thing, if only they used the longer track for the 400. |
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Just a picking point... 'A NASCAR' isn't a thing as it is called a 'stock car'. It'd be like calling a sports car 'an Automobile Club de l'Ouest'. There's some semantics for ya.
A stock car is heavy, doesn't accelerate well, doesn't handle well, and really, really doesn't brake well. So it would be slower than just about anything including many road cars. That being said, it has over 900hp and looks like a lot of fun. |
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Two completely different sets of regulations, just like NASCAR regs compared to our production car regulations and the FIA GT3 regs Quote:
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and why you changed a quote to say my name when it was FAS who said it? Last edited by peckstar; 25 Apr 2013 at 13:22. |
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Looking at the Bathurst NASCAR lap record from 1996 (set by one Jim Richards) of 2:18.1027, it's not too shabby considering the development that has gone on in the past 17 years. Also, keep in mind that the V8 lap record of the time was about a mid-2:12. The V8 Supercar is better under brakes and through corners, but would get hosed in a drag race. The NASCAR road course cars are no longer modified short track cars- the teams build dedicated chassis for two weekends a year...
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I didn't change the quote, i just forget to copy & paste FAS's name into the quote box i was using when i posted |
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actually i didnt, my comment was to someone (JHamilton) who had. I just gave the info i had, which was the NASCAR Bathurst link ,that you added, to recent production car races at Bathurst
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Don't blame this on me. I mentioned sportscars and what to call stock cars.
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