Who will get Windy at Indy? - Page 7

TSR · 23 Oct 2005, 05:36 (Ref:1441005)

Do not know if this has already being mentioned, but Bill (know nothing)Woods just said Russell Ingall got pinged a 32sec penatly in R2 and will start R3 from p10 not p4.Anyone know WHY?

retro · 23 Oct 2005, 05:44 (Ref:1441010)

Their are some nose's out of joint after race 2????

bestfit · 23 Oct 2005, 05:45 (Ref:1441012)

He went straight through one of the chicanes and according to the IPO he did not "slow down enough" and so has been penalised.

TSR · 23 Oct 2005, 05:45 (Ref:1441013)

Yes Mr Gore is not a happy chappy at the moment, and he kept his tongue in his mouth when Rusty interviewed him.

**GTRMagic** · 23 Oct 2005, 06:24 (Ref:1441018)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

He went straight through one of the chicanes and according to the IPO he did not "slow down enough" and so has been penalised.

Hard to slow down when you have no brakes....

pete55 · 23 Oct 2005, 07:34 (Ref:1441033)

Funny thing is Skaife did the same thing yesterday and didn't get penalised.

Downoz · 23 Oct 2005, 08:56 (Ref:1441091)

No but he slowed and let Lowndes pass him

Rombles1 · 23 Oct 2005, 10:44 (Ref:1441154)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Hard to slow down when you have no brakes....

So the secret to having the rules not apply to you is to build a car with no brakes? Then you can drive wherever you want, and say "I had no brakes!" No, if you did that you would be penalised... like Ingall was.

**GTRMagic** · 23 Oct 2005, 11:17 (Ref:1441180)

Not quite... more that the car was very unlikely to slow enough and not hit Mr Ellery.... indeed it is more than likely that Mr Ingall would have had a drive thru for entering pitlane at what looked like 100 km/h over the pit lane speed limit

Quite how that car had the same issues in all 3 races is rather odd....

.. I didnt see the same issue in Mr Ambrose's car, but he was a mile back, and #10 ignore anyone that far from the front

D.R.T. · 23 Oct 2005, 12:44 (Ref:1441240)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete55

Funny thing is Skaife did the same thing yesterday and didn't get penalised.

Yeah it seems after race 1, today was just a conspiracy to make sure the championship can come down to the final round. That pit lane penalty was a joke aswell.

Is that what v8 supercar has become ?

hml2777 · 23 Oct 2005, 19:57 (Ref:1441502)

Is it just me, or do others think that the Stone Brothers are being hounded for trivial offences.

It is starting to look as though the Race Director (and IPO) has it in for them.

Trevor · 23 Oct 2005, 20:56 (Ref:1441553)

I thought the prang where Marcos backed into the wall was very interesting. It appeared to me that he didn't trust Morris to do the right thing, so he (Marcos) hit the brakes hard to avoid going under Morris, but in doing so spun himself around.

observer · 23 Oct 2005, 21:47 (Ref:1441582)

I thought Marcos just went into that corner a little too hot!

frederick · 23 Oct 2005, 22:32 (Ref:1441611)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hml2777

Is it just me, or do others think that the Stone Brothers are being hounded for trivial offences.

It is starting to look as though the Race Director (and IPO) has it in for them.

Funny you should say that........I said the same to my mate yesterday

"I wonder what SBR have done to ****-off the officials, it looks like they're trying to prevent them from winning a third time, perhaps they're terrified that we'll get an F1 style meltdown with one team dominating all the time"

Dazz · 23 Oct 2005, 22:52 (Ref:1441624)

I think sometimes it looks like one team is getting pinged more than others but it does seem to even out over time.

Ingalls pit lane entrance thing was harsh but he did look to be a little out of control and not using due care at that time.

In any case, it has all certainly livened up the end of the championship.

Tasmania is going to be a cracker of a meeting I think with desperation seen from quite a few contenders.

KE30MAN · 23 Oct 2005, 22:59 (Ref:1441630)

As far as tracks go, Indy has to be the least condusive track for racing that you coulsd possibly come up with.

Rombles1 · 23 Oct 2005, 23:10 (Ref:1441635)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Trev

I thought the prang where Marcos backed into the wall was very interesting. It appeared to me that he didn't trust Morris to do the right thing, so he (Marcos) hit the brakes hard to avoid going under Morris, but in doing so spun himself around.

Sounds like Marcos.... "I'm the champion so everyone get out of my way...." "It's someone elses fault that I backed the car into the wall...."

D.R.T. · 24 Oct 2005, 00:25 (Ref:1441661)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz

I think sometimes it looks like one team is getting pinged more than others but it does seem to even out over time.

Ingalls pit lane entrance thing was harsh but he did look to be a little out of control and not using due care at that time.

He drove to aviod an accident, how is this not using due care.

Its not just bad calls, yesterday showed blatant disregard against a driver that was going to sow up a championship preventing the desired Grand Finale. You got to feel for the team in question

Dazz · 24 Oct 2005, 02:14 (Ref:1441703)

He did brilliantly at avoiding the accident, but it was one he was about to cause though!

Unless the other car slowed at a greater speed than normal, Ingall should have taken more care instead of flying in behind him at a speed that he was unable to slow from.

I agree a drive-through is a tough penalty for such an error where he made no gain, and I believe there should be a nominal smaller time adjusted penalty for such trivial things, but until there is there is not much we can do about these things.

Trevor · 24 Oct 2005, 05:02 (Ref:1441759)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rombles1

Sounds like Marcos.... "I'm the champion so everyone get out of my way...." "It's someone elses fault that I backed the car into the wall...."

Don't use what I said out of context please, at no stage was I inferring that, or did Marcos Ambrose or anyone from SBR infer that, it was just an observation of mine!

craig1 · 24 Oct 2005, 05:26 (Ref:1441766)

The Ingal penalty was complete bull****. How you can be penalised for what he did is beyond even what the most anal of officials can come up with. If you use the pit apron/verge (what ever you want to call it) to enter the pits to gain an advantage then so the penality be applied. This is just turning into an attempt to manipulate the Championship down to a final round result so the AVESCO promoted event will get more press.
I really don't care who wins the Championship but if it comes down to some pin head, near sighted officials judgement then the series will be the worse for it.

observer · 24 Oct 2005, 10:17 (Ref:1441951)

Didnt Ingall pull away from going in because Ambrose was in the pits already
apart from ellery being in front of him?

mayhem · 24 Oct 2005, 10:54 (Ref:1441987)

Ambrose was behind Ingall on the racetrack.

1200Datto27 · 24 Oct 2005, 11:14 (Ref:1442003)

No one has really mentioned Ellery's actions in this, and I didn't tape the race, so I can't check it. I do seem to recall the commentators at the time saying that Ellery had gone into the pits slower than normal, could this have caught Rusty out?

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