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"my desire to set the record straight on behalf of the team members who worked their ar*e off for him all year."
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12 Dec 2008, 07:05 (Ref:2353233) | #28 | |
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I am interested as to whether forum member agree or disagree with the profilers response to the news paper interview with Michael, taking away our thoughts on whether he should or should not comment from anonymity. Just the accuracy
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12 Dec 2008, 07:47 (Ref:2353254) | #29 | |
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Is Patrizi the new Thexton??
Maybe Thexton and patrizi have more in common than I once imagined - both over cashed and undertalented!! Sorry if that offends, just an opinion.
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How any team can be foolish enough to sign up an arrogant, ignorant name dropper like Patrizi is beyond me. Cash or not, you are going to hurt your team moral having someone with the attitude he has. Racing Skaife huh?? Would you be proud to be telling everyone that you raced him for 19th position and put him off the track in the process?? |
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12 Dec 2008, 08:29 (Ref:2353280) | #32 | ||
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I dont think Mr Patrizi is the worst cashpilot in the series, but given the equipment, and standard of preparation in a full house FPR car tended by FPR mechanics and engineers, the article as shared by The Profiler is not in line with what the results appear to indicate.
I found it strange that Mr Patrizi would not be improving throughout the year, I mean the usual thing in this category is that as the pilots get more miles, they usually discover the cars can do more things than they thought they could at the start of the year. The #777 car has been a tail end Charlie most of the season, down the back with Mr Marshall's "el de barge" and whoever the driver rotation (except Mr Owen) at TKR... for a car with a pedigree and strong engineering complement. The chassis is actually for sale in AA right now... Interesting powder room noise at Oran Park suggests that the driver has the funding to return to the main game series next year, however based on 2008 performances, may not find a slot... |
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12 Dec 2008, 08:35 (Ref:2353282) | #33 | |
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Getting a few first time posters in this thread.
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12 Dec 2008, 11:45 (Ref:2353406) | #37 | ||
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Surprise, surprise.
Motorsport catagories around the world have got lots of no talent rich dudes with too much time on their hands, over inflated egos and a great ability to embarrass themselves whenever they speak to the media. |
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Similarly with egos... if not for a desire to prove themselves the quickest individual known to the species, they'd be content to say "meh, whatever" when aspersions were cast, intead of trying for one more position, or another tenth off... motor racing isn't full of virtuous individuals on gleaming white steeds, full of gallant endeavour... on its less-than best days, it has the capacity to hold the cosmos' most vast conglomeration of sordid, facile, superficial, two-faced stupidity known to man. Yet to its adherents and admirers, the most sublime moments are marked by unfathomable bravery and virtuosity. That said, to compare the likes of a Thexton to many of the others in unfair in that Thexton made no bones about his pace or lack thereof: he had money and passion for the sport, and so used one to indulge the other, unashamedly (and rightly so). Perhaps the sport would be better for a few more Theckos, and less of the other... |
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A true test of a "members" credibility lays firmly in their posting history. Profiler's history is firmly rooted around SpeedFX, their current driver, past V8 drivers in Denyer-Caruso, even right back to their Tony Kart superstar Courtney. As far as I can see, his opinions are aligned to reality, whether the truth hurts or not, an in most cases he responds only to gross inaccuracy of issues concerning his own backyard. His history suggests he is not some guy on here living the motorsport dream via proxy through the keyboard. Nor does he comment randomly or obsessively to generate a post count, even to the point of responding consecutively to his own posts (not referring to you cavvy). I wouldn't want to see the forum lose the inside insight provided by such members. His posts are often colored by a sense of righting wrongs, not by any attempt to build his self esteem. BTW, I'm still waiting for the post that explores the possibility of a link between the underlying personality revealed by that story and the Bathurst post-race pit lane incident...any takers? Oh cavvy, I like your posts as well Profiler...if you're wanting to comment, why did the said driver not do a few Fujitsu rounds while coming up to speed? My previous post elaborates on this. |
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[QUOTE=davester]Cavvy, your assertion effectively gives rise to outing just about every poster on here, unless you have some magical formula for determining where the line between anonymity and identification exists.
A true test of a "members" credibility lays firmly in their posting history. Profiler's history is firmly rooted around SpeedFX, their current driver, past V8 drivers in Denyer-Caruso, even right back to their Tony Kart superstar Courtney. As far as I can see, his opinions are aligned to reality, whether the truth hurts or not, an in most cases he responds only to gross inaccuracy of issues concerning his own backyard. ... His posts are often colored by a sense of righting wrongs, not by any attempt to build his self esteem. QUOTE] My concern is The Profiler getting personal .. e.g no job, a parent paying for one of their kids to go motor racing. Put the remarks in context - the Kalgoorlie Miner, a hometown paper printing an article on one of their own performing on the national stage. He pumped his own tyres up, so offensive to The Profiler - the PR industry I think its called. Ausdrill, a Patrizi sponsor, operates in Kal. Ausdrill is ASX listed, not a Patrizi family business. Was this article similar (a follow up) to previous articles on Patrizi when he raced overseas? I followed Patrizi through the year, looking at his efforts in qualifying versus racing - his best practice laps were rarely repeated in races - yes, it was a very disappointing year, so I dont argue on that point. The Profiler chucks in a hand grenade & wants to sneak away unaccountable for the personal attack, poor !! |
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I have not posted on this forum for a long time, but I must agree with the profiler. In fact half of the V8 field don't have the talent to win a race as long as their bums point to the ground. There are a lot of drivers in other racing classes that could do a better job, but will never get the chance because they don't have the cheque book. Most of the team owners arn't racers their simply business men and not interested in winning or they would put drivers in their cars who could give them a chance of winning.
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I find The Profilers personal attack objectionable .. you OK with that? To attack the man personally whilst hiding his own identity is what it is. I've drawn a conclusion, so have you Baz. I accept The Profilers assessment of Patrizis first year in V8s (see my practice comments). Last edited by cavvy; 13 Dec 2008 at 02:08. |
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Cav,you jump at the chance to defend the likes of TW based on "facts" and yet appear not to appreciate the same from others. How could you find Profilers attack objectionable unless you know otherwise, to offer up Profiler should out himself to justify his comments is absurd at best. I have not seen any industry types that lurk these pages jumping up to howl Profiler down. I wonder why??? |
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play it again Sam.
Baz, no problem with attacking the gibberish related to our sport, its the personal stuff .. even from industry types (that a secret hand shake or a nod & a wink!!)
Re TW, just the misrepresentations posted as facts were my problem. Attack away, the Arrows affair make him fair game, just dont post nonsense. |
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jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls
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