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Old 4 Jan 2020, 10:52 (Ref:3949804)   #166
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1958 Melbourne Grand Prix at Albert Park.



Drivers included Jack Brabham, Stirling Moss, Bib Stillwell, Doug Whiteford, Alec Mildren, Arnold Glass, Stan Jones, Len Lukey and many more.

For the technical amongst you, Stirling’s car was fitted with an Alf Francis built Coventry Climax FPF, 4 cylinder DOHC, 2 valve, Weber carbed engine of 2051cc, it was a ‘screamer’ with trick cams and crank. Jack’s T45 toted a 2.2 litre FPF, revised ‘Ersa’ 5 speed ‘box and double wishbone rear suspension.

Note: although the track is to all intents and purposes very similar to the track currently used for the modern Australian GP, back in the day they ran anti-clockwise, opposite to the current.

This 1958 Albert Park race was the last race meeting until the modern Albert Park era in 1996


Race result / Entry list.


Position [2] Driver [2] No. [5] Car [2] Entrant [5] Laps [2]
1 Stirling Moss 7 Cooper T45 Coventry Climax FPF RRC Walker 32
2 Jack Brabham 8 Cooper T45 Coventry Climax FPF J Brabham 32
3 Doug Whiteford 26 Maserati 300S D Whiteford 31
4 Bib Stillwell 3 Maserati 250F BS Stillwell 31
5 Len Lukey 5 [4] Lukey Bristol Lukey Mufflers Pty Ltd 30
6 Bill Pitt 22 Jaguar D-Type G Anderson 30
7 Curley Brydon 6 Ferrari Type 125 Chevrolet Corvette AH Brydon 29
8 Glyn Scott 18 Repco Holden Special G Scott 29
9 Bob Jane 27 Maserati 300S New York Motors Pty Ltd 29
10 Tom Clarke [6] 10 Ferrari 555 [4] T Clarke 28
11 John Roxburgh 19 Cooper T41 Coventry Climax FWB JB Roxburgh 28
? Ern Seeliger 4 Maybach Mk.IV Chevrolet Corvette E Seeliger ?
DNF Derek Jolly 29 Lotus XV Coventry Climax D Jolly 28
DNF Stan Jones 12 Maserati 250F Stan Jones Motors Pty Ltd 18
DNF Austin Miller 60 Miller Special Coventry Climax FWB A Miller 12
DNF Ted Gray 11 Tornado Mk.II Chevrolet Corvette L Abrahams 4
DNF Arnold Glass 2 Ferrari 555 [4] Capital Motors 4
DNF Jack Myers 17 WM Special Waggott Holden J Myers 1
DNF Alec Mildren 15 Cooper T43 Coventry Climax FPE AG Mildren Pty Ltd 0
DNS Bill Patterson 9 Cooper T43 Coventry Climax Bill Patterson Motors Pty Ltd -
DNS Ray Gibbs 25 Cooper T23 Holden R Gibbs -
DNS Werner Greve [7] 30 HWM Jaguar W Greve -
DNS Ray Wamsley 21 Alfa Romeo Tipo B Chevrolet Corvette R Wamsley -
DNS Charlie Whatmore 28 Lotus XI Coventry Climax FPF C Whatmore -
DNS John Marston 23 Cooper Mk.IV Vincent s/c J Marston -
DNS Owen Bailey 20 Talbot-Lago T26C O Bailey


And now the video link....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rpDnq0zsM
Really interesting assortment of cars! Curious mix of Formula 1, sports cars, and "Specials". Third place for Whiteford on a Maserati 300S. I would not have expected a Maserati 300S to beat their 250F siblings on that sort of race.
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Old 4 Jan 2020, 11:13 (Ref:3949809)   #167
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Really interesting assortment of cars! Curious mix of Formula 1, sports cars, and "Specials". Third place for Whiteford on a Maserati 300S. I would not have expected a Maserati 300S to beat their 250F siblings on that sort of race.
Of course it was not an official championship GP, other than it was a round of the Australian Drivers Championship.

It was for an event for Formula Libre Racing Cars and Sports Cars by invitation. Hence the assortment. The race was also referred to as the Melbourne 100 (it was 100 miles long)
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Old 15 Jan 2020, 15:45 (Ref:3951798)   #168
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Someone made mention of a PA Cresta in the LMC thread, so I thought I would post this newsreel brief clip showing French cars for Gerard, and a Vauxhall PA(for Bauble) at the 1960 Armstrong 500 miler at Phillip Island (The race that moved to Bathurst and is now the Bathurst 1000Klm). The Vauxhall won the race..... and still appears at Historic meetings in Victoria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOwhtn3FBY

This is footage of other later Armstrong 500's along with a bit of a focus on the Cresta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlqFiPA6XXU

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Old 15 Jan 2020, 16:23 (Ref:3951808)   #169
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Someone made mention of a PA Cresta in the LMC thread, so I thought I would post this newsreel brief clip showing French cars for Gerard, and a Vauxhall PA(for Bauble) at the 1960 Armstrong 500 miler at Phillip Island (The race that moved to Bathurst and is now the Bathurst 1000Klm). The Vauxhall won the race..... and still appears at Historic meetings in Victoria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOwhtn3FBY

This is footage of other later Armstrong 500's along with a bit of a focus on the Cresta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlqFiPA6XXU
Thanks for these E.B. Never mind Bauble, I've a bit of a Vauxhall affliction myself! I'll take a look at these clips as soon as I can...
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Old 15 Jan 2020, 16:46 (Ref:3951810)   #170
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Merci beaucoup, c'est très délicat de ta part! Because we're out of "his" range, 'f course I see a 4 CV Renault but isn't it a Gogomobil after the VW's and 403 Pug?
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Just got the Anglia and two Simcas later on, an Aronde and a P 60. Was the german team experiencing roll over without Beethoven and ROPS star?
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Old 15 Jan 2020, 18:07 (Ref:3951822)   #172
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Merci beaucoup, c'est très délicat de ta part! Because we're out of "his" range, 'f course I see a 4 CV Renault but isn't it a Gogomobil after the VW's and 403 Pug?
Here is the entry list.... no Gogomobils entered but I think the car you are referring to might be a Lloyd Alexander of which 4 were entered. (Manufactured by Borgward)

Entry list for 1960: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Armstrong_500

A pic of the Lloyd Alexander, complete with suicide doors.



or maybe the little NSU Prinz, as driven in this race by Aus GP Legends Lex Davison and Doug Whiteford. Love the rear wheel and tyre lean in this pic, plus front wheel in the air like a Cortina!

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Old 15 Jan 2020, 18:16 (Ref:3951825)   #173
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As you suggest, more likely a Prinz for sure! As a Cortina driver yourself you must remember that this kind of very positive camber at rear means something's going wrong with a halfshaft!
My thought about Goggomobil was because the Dart and a small van were built in Sidney if I'm right this time…*Quelle bonne excuse!
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1955 Belgian Grand Prix

If you have 30 minutes to spare have a gander at this Shell race review from the old 'long' Spa circuit.
Brilliant track, gorgeous cars and a fabulous 'traditional voice' type commentary.

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An incredible film, commissioned by Shell, which covers the 1955 Belgian Grand Prix from practice to podium.

This is a one-of-a-kind look at legends like Fangio, Farina, and Stirling Moss in their prime piloting cars that have become nearly as famous as the men who drove them. And yes, there is sound, so you can hear the roar of Ferraris and the din of Fangio's Silver Arrow.

The race coverage is even better, from pre-race briefings (on the track!) to cars racing down straights and squealing hairpins mere feet from spectators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exBtOgys7I

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Old 18 Jan 2020, 18:05 (Ref:3952227)   #175
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Brilliant, thanks! No chicane at Malmedy which was later a round about. I can tell you how much Burnenville was impressive at night… The braves could do Masta flat out.
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A real gem, especially as you can hear the Mercs and Lancia flat out.

Absolutely nothing to do with ‘Historic Racing Today’, of course, but what the heck....
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Absolutely nothing to do with ‘Historic Racing Today’,
Ha bon, ben zut alors! Isn't historic racing a celebration? Yes, it is, indeed… We need to know how we're supposed to drive, do we? This is a good example, bring back the old tracks!
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1955 Belgian Grand Prix

If you have 30 minutes to spare have a gander at this Shell race review from the old 'long' Spa circuit.
Brilliant track, gorgeous cars and a fabulous 'traditional voice' type commentary.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7exBtOgys7I
I've watched this several times since seeing it for the first time some months ago. Absolutely wonderful.
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I don't know if this has been posted before, but if you liked Spa 1955-:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxw090DVFI&t=3s

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Wonderful Bob, thanks this is the best. But dont push your chance because you could get this kind of warning/comment : Absolutely nothing to do with ‘Historic Racing Today’, of course, but what the heck!

At the end of the video you understand how Mercedes attracted the best drivers: they received a brand new 300 SL as company car and a nice company too. Gordini drivers? Hum, may be a second hand Dauphine?
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