[BTCC] BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by SSmith

As the Focus is a relatively 'recent' car (2020), I wonder if a team like Power Maxed could be tempted to buy a couple to replace the ageing and largely uncompetitive Astras?

Or MB Motorsport for their 2-car entry?

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Hopefully with one less support, we'll get to see more races of the others...

Apparently part of the reason for reducing the number of support series was to reduce the time pressures and chance of cancelled races. Other than Porsches, series often tried to run triple-header weekends.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Apparently part of the reason for reducing the number of support series was to reduce the time pressures and chance of cancelled races. Other than Porsches, series often tried to run triple-header weekends.

Sorry, I meant more races shown on TV and less unwatchable, than more run!

[Alfisti]

Would be nice to see the Scottish lads in their Mini series at Knockhill and possibly the journey South to Croft and/ or Oulton. Just dreaming, always put on a good show when up in bonny Scotland.

[auroan]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

[pedant]

The A5 Sportback is 5mm shorter, 4mm narrower and 42mm lower than the A4.

[/pedant]


The A5 Sportback would make a stylish addition to the grid I feel.

Really, always looks longer in the flesh... Learn something everyday....but yeah would look really nice. And I wonder with it being so "slippery" that Motorbase may have looked at it for their "RWD Audi" model mentioned in the autosport article.

[crmalcolm]

Just a thought, so please indulge me for a moment:

What configuration would be expected if a car was entered that only had an EV variant?

Take the MG4 as an example. Ignoring the length (we have already seen exemptions), if a team wanted to enter the MG4 with the M-Sport engine - would they be permitted as RWD because that is where the road going car delivers the power?

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Just a thought, so please indulge me for a moment:

What configuration would be expected if a car was entered that only had an EV variant?

Take the MG4 as an example. Ignoring the length (we have already seen exemptions), if a team wanted to enter the MG4 with the M-Sport engine - would they be permitted as RWD because that is where the road going car delivers the power?

ev-only based cars are not possible because the base road car has to have a petrol or diesel engine

(a porsche taycan for example couldnt be used because it does not have an ice)

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

ev-only based cars are not possible because the base road car has to have a petrol or diesel engine

(a porsche taycan for example couldnt be used because it does not have an ice)

Thanks - do you have a link to where that is defined?

I remember the regulations saying something about if you use your own engine it had to be from the same 'family' and have over 2,500 units produced. There was also a line about having the choice of using the TOCA engine as a preference, or if there was no suitable 2L engine in the 'family'.
I just can't find a reference that specified that the car being homologated must have been available with an ICE.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Thanks - do you have a link to where that is defined?

I remember the regulations saying something about if you use your own engine it had to be from the same 'family' and have over 2,500 units produced. There was also a line about having the choice of using the TOCA engine as a preference, or if there was no suitable 2L engine in the 'family'.
I just can't find a reference that specified that the car being homologated must have been available with an ICE.

technical regulation 2.2

Large-scale series production touring cars with a minimum of 4 seats, with 4 or 5 doors and of a minimum (nominal) overall length of 4.40 metres and a production petrol or diesel engine capacity (nominal) of 1.4 to 2.5 litres, and having the engine installed in the front part of the car, driving either the front or rear wheels and steering the two front wheels only. A large-scale series production 4WD touring car will be considered only if an equivalent 2WD version does not exist. A 2 or 3 door series production touring car complies with this definition if the silhouette is identical to the 4 or 5 door version.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

technical regulation 2.2

Large-scale series production touring cars with a minimum of 4 seats, with 4 or 5 doors and of a minimum (nominal) overall length of 4.40 metres and a production petrol or diesel engine capacity (nominal) of 1.4 to 2.5 litres, and having the engine installed in the front part of the car, driving either the front or rear wheels and steering the two front wheels only. A large-scale series production 4WD touring car will be considered only if an equivalent 2WD version does not exist. A 2 or 3 door series production touring car complies with this definition if the silhouette is identical to the 4 or 5 door version.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Although given current showroom trends, we're probably going to end up with a Mazda CX-60 representing the future of RWD in the BTCC

Not much wrong with that sort of cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLb6JafBYVg

[auroan]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Not much wrong with that sort of cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLb6JafBYVg

Execpt all those are siloutte racers of the same vain as the failed TTA/STCC championship base on space frame solution F cars. About as much to do with the crossover/SUV they are based on as me taking my glasses off and squinting at a bad fibreglass replica of a body shell.

[NaBUru38]

TOCA seeking new junior series for BTCC package

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2022...-btcc-package/

How about using B-SUVs like the Ford Puma, Hyundai Kona, Toyota Yaris Cross and Honda HR-V?

[Northern Monkey]

From the horses mouth on Plato's future and will he be back next season: https://youtu.be/89ewWC0TpuI?t=3872

[tocatrucky]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

TOCA seeking new junior series for BTCC package

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2022...-btcc-package/

How about using B-SUVs like the Ford Puma, Hyundai Kona, Toyota Yaris Cross and Honda HR-V?

Toyota UK are looking to invest in marketing in the UK in 2023. The GR86s go well around Bathurst I see.