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Old 17 Nov 2022, 16:52 (Ref:4134050)   #1
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So with the 2022 WRC season complete it's time for a 2023 thread!

News from M-Sport that Breen is leaving the team so won't be part of the 2023 lineup. Does that increase the chances of Tanak joining M-Sport? Possibly Solberg?

With Breen available do Hyundai sign him up?

When will the 2023 calendar be finalised?

Lots of questions for 2023 with not many answers at the moment - seems like a big shakeup of drivers across the board.
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Old 18 Nov 2022, 09:21 (Ref:4134103)   #2
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The Breen question has been answered pretty quickly - he's back to Hyundai splitting a drive with Dani Sordo. Lappi also signed for a full season with Hyundai.
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Still no official confirmation of the WRC calendar....

Most of the other major series have managed to, but not the WRC. The WRC Promoter really is hopeless....can they get anything right?

I'm not sure the sport is massively better off than when they first took over; they've been a real disappointment.
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Old 25 Nov 2022, 09:50 (Ref:4134839)   #4
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Still no official confirmation of the WRC calendar....

Most of the other major series have managed to, but not the WRC. The WRC Promoter really is hopeless....can they get anything right?

I'm not sure the sport is massively better off than when they first took over; they've been a real disappointment.
Agreed, they've not really achieved anything of note, the calendar is the latest shambles.
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WRC & ERC calendars released; no real surprises, though an interesting new event, the Central European Rally, taking in stages from Germany, Austria & Czech Rep....


https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/wrc/wrc-powers-in...

https://www.fiaerc.com/erc/news/erc/2022/new-chall...


A few countries even get both WRC & ERC rounds.....

And a puff piece on why the calendar was late:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-w...endar-so-late/
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...an interesting new event, the Central European Rally, taking in stages from Germany, Austria & Czech Rep....
It's gonna be interesting to see how that works in practice. I hope Rally Germany comes back in the future. It's one I wanted to see but never got round to it.
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https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrcs-...unch-mid-2023/

A 24 hour, 7 days a week channel to be launched, featuring WRC, ERC & WorldRX.....
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Ott Tänak is confirmed to drive for M-Sport.

Gus Greensmith, Pierre-Louis Loubet and Oliver Solberg are in discussions to drive a Ford Puma, no mention of whether M-Sport or a privateer team.

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...2023/10408831/
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Well that's good news - hopefully the Puma will be more reliable next season and Tanak can compete for victories. Greensmith you'd imagine is just a case of agreeing the numbers and signing the contract. Hopefully the money can be found for (or by) Loubet and Solberg too - preferably for full seasons.
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https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/f...ions/10415057/

Interesting....I'm not sure I'd be content with no new manufacturers, or strong rumours of any joining. So, everything is fine.....
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Interesting....I'm not sure I'd be content with no new manufacturers, or strong rumours of any joining. So, everything is fine.....
They have to put a positive spin on it - I suspect that realistically 'content' is not losing any manufacturers. M-Sport always seem to be on the verge of pulling out and Hyundai haven't seemed to be 100% since the change of regulations, there seems to be a fair bit of turmoil within the team. Toyota is the only team that looks settled - and they also look to have the best car.
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Trouble is, they're always putting a positive spin on issues......They're like that Iraqi information minister "there are no guns".

The sport at WRC level probably needs a revolution; far too many talented drivers either without a seat, or stuck in WRC2.

Nothing will change, and we'll be here the same time next year wondering where next for the WRC.
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I think the biggest loss was Citroen taking it's ball when they lost Ogier. Really could have done with them staying, but no, they decided to storm off
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I think the biggest loss was Citroen taking it's ball when they lost Ogier. Really could have done with them staying, but no, they decided to storm off
From memory, they couldn't run two major global programs; years earlier they pulled the 908 HDi for the first WEC season shortly before a Sebring test in 2012 and concentrated on WRC, then WTCC.


Then after the ill fated 2017 WRCar, the PSA money & resources went towards the new Peugeot 9x8 Hypercar program. Can't say that's a bad decision; the WEC is a stronger series....
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I always liked Rally Deutschland with the hinkelsteins. I don't reckon these will be part of the CER, though.
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