What another great F1 race that was ! ! ! !

rdjones · 15 Sep 2002, 13:25 (Ref:380553)

Well that was a great Grand Prix again it was over by lap 2..............

903cc · 15 Sep 2002, 13:35 (Ref:380557)

It was simply breathtaking........ I am now bored with Ferrari winning all the time. I started to get excited though when TGF slowed down. I was hoping he would go out.

Jay · 15 Sep 2002, 13:37 (Ref:380558)

Hey it was a great job by the Ferrari engineers! Formula 1 is about building the best car you can and watching it run, it has nothing to do with racing or entertainment.

cos · 15 Sep 2002, 13:38 (Ref:380560)

Unlucky for McNish, he could have got a few points had his car not failed again

neilap · 15 Sep 2002, 13:39 (Ref:380561)

I need to vent!! I apopogise from now.

What the hell was BAR and JV thinking or doing. How does one start in 9th and screw it up so royally? God! Sometimes it is hard work, hard work, being a Honda fan.

Ok, now that I got that off my chest... Nuff props to EI. The Jag was outstanding. He got his points on pace, not just luck it is good for F1 to have all these different factors. Renault also showed asounding launch control and they had good pace. In fact I was also impressed by the Toyotas. Really the only sad state IMO, was JV. BAR was not really that bad it was JV. Fisi even passed him... oh I am going back to that again. Sato sucked too! If he drives like this again I dont want to see him in F1 next year. Then again he will more than likely be in a Jordan Ford so that may be good.

I feel ill!!

Mr V · 15 Sep 2002, 13:39 (Ref:380562)

A brilliant drive by Eddie.......drive of the day, but that could have gone to Jarno if he'd not stalled (or whatever problem he had) on the grid and finished on the podium himself.

nameless · 15 Sep 2002, 14:11 (Ref:380603)

it was as good a race as i have seen all season which would have been a lot better if the tv coverage had managed to see anything happen, e.g. trulli from last to 9th in the first few laps, i didnt see any of it. it was a shame that the williams failed so ferrari had absolutely no challenge, again coulthard was poor, sato was shameful (he must have had a car problem), mcnish was unlucky again. it was good to see eddie on the podium though.

Jay · 15 Sep 2002, 14:15 (Ref:380609)

Was there ever a time when teammates raced each other in F1? It would seem to me that the Ferraris would have done some racing if they wanted to...

Mania · 15 Sep 2002, 14:30 (Ref:380619)

The last time the Ferraris really raced each other was when Berger and Alesi were in cars 28 and 27 respectively.

As for the race..had Ralf's car held up...it would`ve been more interesting ...he looked to have the legs on Pablo and would`ve given the Ferrari a hard run.

Great drive by Eddie. Hope this shuts up those who have been bad mouthing him off late..the guy can still go..all he needs is the equipment.

NiceGuyEddie · 15 Sep 2002, 14:34 (Ref:380624)

For 2002-standards, this one was absolutly breathtaking

*yawn*

Mr V · 15 Sep 2002, 14:43 (Ref:380633)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay
Was there ever a time when teammates raced each other in F1?

Not lately! I did think that it was a shame that TGF dropped back so much after Rubens exited in front after his second stop, i realise that they aren't allowed to race one another, but imo, it does make a mockery of Rubens victory when, by dropping back so much, basically Michael is saying, "here you go Rubens, another one i've let you win!"

pole2pole · 15 Sep 2002, 14:44 (Ref:380636)

I agree Mr V great drive from eddie but apart from that it was another boring race its the same old story montoya said shotly after he retired that his tyres where going off fast so once again michelin are nowhere near the ferrari/brigdestone.

Sato san · 15 Sep 2002, 14:48 (Ref:380640)

Rubens has got the measure of Michael for sure.......its good to see.

TGF may try to make these things look like that , but Rubens sernt racing either .

**garcon** · 15 Sep 2002, 14:50 (Ref:380644)

Mr V, that is one little nagging thing I have at the moment. Apart from celebrating the dominance of Ferrari, and cementing Rubino's second place in the WDC, I can't help feeling Michael is always just doing things in a way that says 'look, this is the team I'm driving for, and the team wants a 1-2 in the WDC, but ain't it funny how I'm always just behind?'...

Micheal can't help reminding people that he is Number One. Despite what the commentary team said, I'm sure Michael backed off as Rubens came out of the pits to ensure he just filtered in behind.

Red · 15 Sep 2002, 14:59 (Ref:380655)

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Originally posted by mr v
it does make a mockery of Rubens victory when, by dropping back so much, basically Michael is saying, "here you go Rubens, another one i've let you win!"

It was everything you want but NOT a mockery of Rubens win! If you want, that was a further humiliation of the so called "opposition".

(ok, I'll retract.... the word opposition

Yo, guys, I'm just joking!) Actually we can even take the Austria-gate as a biggest compliment ever made to Williams and McLaren. They really crushed them, trashed them, fllored them and picked the ashes from the track. The way they took the flag, wheel-to-wheel (and provoking a stoke to the flag-man

), the slow down lap with the wheels interwoven, the 5 seconds per lap slower, simply wanted to show everyone who's in charge in Formula 1. I believe that Ron nearly died when the Ferrari's allowed David to unlap himself.......

paul-collins · 15 Sep 2002, 16:24 (Ref:380771)

Watching these Ferraris is a bit like the Denny and Bruce show.

North Americans and Europeans over 40 will know what I'm talking about.

The cars are just incredible.

Red · 15 Sep 2002, 16:57 (Ref:380812)

Oh my God! The humiliation continues:
Question And your car perfect?
Michael Schumacher: No problem. I was maybe a little bit slowish on the first set of tyres, but the second set was really very good.

He was kinda slowish....

BoyWunder · 15 Sep 2002, 17:12 (Ref:380820)

Why the hells JPM been so utterly useless recently...I know he'd have been the best of the rest had he finished, but I expect more of him?

BootsOntheSide · 15 Sep 2002, 17:41 (Ref:380835)

I actually enjoyed it. There was lots going on, and most of the racing was close, it was nailbiting seeing whether Renault would have to stop again towards the end, and there was some serious duelling through the field. More action than the last 3 races put together really.

Ralf's Girl · 15 Sep 2002, 18:23 (Ref:380857)

I can't believe (I tell a lie, of course I can believe) that that was another Barrichello "win". TGF obviously slowed down on the straight, just when I thought maybe Ferrari were going to let them do a bit of racing.

BMW evidently can't build a decent engine - 19,000rpm isn't much good when it can't even go 5 laps.

The only good thing was seeing a few different drivers in the top 6, but had Ralf's engine lasted perhaps we would have seen a different result. Would have been a nice change, too.

paulzinho · 15 Sep 2002, 18:56 (Ref:380879)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay
Was there ever a time when teammates raced each other in F1?

Senna and Prost, simply because neither would ever have given away to the other no matter what the team said!

Now i haven't seen the race yet, must watch highlights tonight, though it doesn't sound like there are any!

R · 15 Sep 2002, 20:11 (Ref:380926)

As expected, with a Ferrari 1-2, the victory would go to Rubens. He's now guaranteed 2nd place in the WDC unless Juan Pablo wins both of the remaining races (hardly likely).

Quote:

Originally posted by garcon
Despite what the commentary team said, I'm sure Michael backed off as Rubens came out of the pits to ensure he just filtered in behind.

You're absolutely right. That was pretty obvious, and if the commentators said otherwise, they were probably just trying to create the illusion for potential new viewers that there's actual racing going on at the front of the field.

I'm pretty tired of this. OK, Monza was a party for the tifosi, Rubens won and Eddie came a refreshing third. But I don't like the way the Ferrari drivers are simply toying with the field. They are too dominant, and it's killing the excitement. I knew Rubens would most likely win this race. I would be more happy if I was watching races where I couldn't say with 99% certainty before the start who was going to win.

I Ate Yoko Ono · 15 Sep 2002, 20:13 (Ref:380932)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay
Hey it was a great job by the Ferrari engineers! Formula 1 is about building the best car you can and watching it run, it has nothing to do with racing or entertainment.

Yes thankyou Jay I noticed that even if nobody else did. Sort of hard to deny though.

I Ate Yoko Ono · 15 Sep 2002, 20:17 (Ref:380936)

Quote:

Originally posted by Red
The way they took the flag, wheel-to-wheel (and provoking a stoke to the flag-man

I'm not sure what you mean by provoking a stoke. Was it a misspelling and you meant he needed a toke to calm down after the way they veered at him?

Nicholas · 15 Sep 2002, 20:32 (Ref:380947)

The ITV commentary team gets excited so easily. I'm jealous.

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