DTM / Supercar Event...?

[Hapul]

We all know TC is looking to expand our series. DTM is a very similar european championship. A joint event would be good to expand our sport. There have been rumors of the European cars at PI, so they could be happy to oblige.
And i'm sure we'd all love to see the V8s thrash around the Nurburgring, norisring, A1 ring or Hockenheim!

[Trevor P]

We would only see the V8's thrash around European tracks on TV, unless you buy me two business class airline tickets.
Not a good idea.

[D.R.T.]

DTM in Aus, I'm all for it

[Chucky]

I don't think so. Why would the Krauts import a support event for the local series when they already have plenty.

And if you think TC would play second fiddle to DTM then you've gt another thing coming.

[dangeradam]

wouldn't the DTM cars totally pants aussie v8 tourers ?

[Trev Campbell]

Yep

[Bimmerhead]

Irrelevant argument. Won't happen. Why on earth would the DTM circus want to go to the trouble and expense to come down here? And on the other hand, why would anyone in Europe put their hand in their pocket to bring the V8 Supertaxis to Europe??

[24Hours]

there is no way on gods green earth that the two classes would ever join forces for an event, but Phillip Island owner Lynn Fox has had discussions with Mercedes' Norbert Haug and other DTM bosses and is keen to bring the series to Australia, and its looking good so far. I think the Supercars would be faster judging by specs. but i would personnaly much prefer to see the DTM series any day!

[Ozsport]

Originally posted by Bimmerhead
Why on earth would the DTM circus want to go to the trouble and expense to come down here? And on the other hand, why would anyone in Europe put their hand in their pocket to bring the V8 Supertaxis to Europe??

So obviously DTM must look down on us lowly V8 SuperCAR fans from on high. I cant see either competition wanting to join forces. As said they are different spec anyway. Besides Supercar are concentrating on a worth while area in Asia Pacific. Forget Europe.

[pitlane 3]

Originally posted by Bimmerhead
Irrelevant argument. Won't happen. Why on earth would the DTM circus want to go to the trouble and expense to come down here?

Well, they just been to China, for a demonstration race only.

[racer69]

Originally posted by 24Hours
I think the Supercars would be faster judging by specs. but i would personnaly much prefer to see the DTM series any day!

The DTM cars would be much faster than V8Supercars. They are lighter, more technically advanced, and their 4 litre engines aren't that far off horsepower wise than what V8Supercars produce.

[mixxer]

actually they are about 150hp off the V8's but weigh 300 kg less.
Interesting that people who bag the V8's for not resembling the standard road going cars want a silhouette formula like DTM to race down under.

[Trevor P]

Mixxer
I agree. Why do we get excited at the thought of carbon fibre silhouette sports sedans? V8's are already half way there in the technology/specification race, but their racing is at least as good, if not much better. (except for the biffing and barging).

[Ozsport]

Originally posted by Trevor P
Mixxer
I agree. Why do we get excited at the thought of carbon fibre silhouette sports sedans? V8's are already half way there in the technology/specification race, but their racing is at least as good, if not much better. (except for the biffing and barging).

Whats wrong with a bit of biff??

"He hit me"
"He didnt hit you, he rub'd you. And rubbing son is racing"

Yes I know an American qoute. But....

[D.R.T.]

Originally posted by mixxer

Interesting that people who bag the V8's for not resembling the standard road going cars want a silhouette formula like DTM to race down under.

DTM shouldn't be referred to as touring cars either, people are trying to say its right they are called touring cars, evidence of that is found in the previous threads regarding world touring cars.

The difference between the two come down that DTM is far more interesting and exciting that the v8 taxi's and doesn't have an arrogant and destructive promoter runnning them

[Ozsport]

Originally posted by D.R.T.

The difference between the two come down that DTM is far more interesting and exciting that the v8 taxi's

Disagree with you there. Good thing about opinions. Everyone can have one. Obviously enough people agree with me in that the V8's are going from strength to strength

[mixxer]

DRT, some facts for you.

The DTM struggle to get more than 20 cars at any race.

Of those 20 odd cars, in qualifying your lucky if the top 12 are within a sec of each other unless its on a mickey mouse circuit with a track length of around 2KM's.

When the race finishes its no better either, the top 10 finishers are on average covered by the best part of a minute.

Race distances are only 150Km with 1 race only over the weekend.

10 Rounds in total.

What it is, is different to the V8's, but thats all its certainly not any better

[The Hrt Kid]

maybe somewhere like winton should hold a round, get someone with $$$ to promote the hell out of it, just to pi$$ tony c off.

[zonda]

Seeing that DTM is going to Asia its not that much further to come down to .au and run a race.
Also considering that Fox has shown interest in DTM i see it would be possible to happen (and no im not saying it will happen).

Still i would pay to see DTM run at the island and i won't for the V8's.

dave.

[cavvy]

Originally posted by The Hrt Kid
hold a round, get someone with $$$ to promote the hell out of it, just to pi$$ tony c off.

Conspiracy theory or the power of the mighty dollar?
The Fox Group are the sort of people HRT are after - maybe TC thinks so too, so is paying to hire the Island. Hopefully TC will further **** off Bob Jane at Bathurst & Bob will join Lindsay Fox (or his son) promoting another drawcard for Aus race fans.

By the way, if you haven't seen the ex Jane Merc 600 Landaulette in the Fox Museum do yourself a favour next time you are in Melbourne - godzilla is there, a Paris to Dakar 959 Porsche etc.

And no, I do not respect TCs tactics, successful as they are to date.

[Ozsport]

[i]

Still i would pay to see DTM run at the island and i won't for the V8's.

dave. [/B]

You would probably be awfully lonely down there.

[manwell]

Originally posted by D.R.T.

The difference between the two come down that DTM is far more interesting and exciting that the v8 taxi's and doesn't have an arrogant and destructive promoter runnning them

I just love the people who rave about DTM but call the cars in our series V8 Taxis.
Ever been to Germany? What do you think they use for Taxis over there?




I agree about the arrogant, destructive promoter though

[D.R.T.]

Originally posted by Ozsport
You would probably be awfully lonely down there.

Dont be so quick to make a call like that.
Names like Frentzen, Alesi and Paffet, I'm sure they'd pull a crowd.

I'd be down there for sure, with a few mates. So Zonda Im sure you wouldnt be alone.

Ozsport would you head down ?

[cavvy]

Does anyone know what sort of TV coverage DTM gets? Anywhere the curious can access it?

[Ozsport]

Originally posted by D.R.T.

Ozsport would you head down ?

Yeah I would head down, but then again im not an average punter. I'd go see go karts if I thought I would enjoy the race.

But once again the average punter knows V8's but wouldnt know much about DTM. Remember the race of 1000 years in adelaide a few years back?? It was a small crowd and that had some big names (even an ex aussie f1 driver).