WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 198

rich07 · 9 Dec 2014, 08:40 (Ref:3483359)

Let's hope Hulk don't smash!

.…I'll get my coat

TF110 · 9 Dec 2014, 09:47 (Ref:3483365)

Here he is

Spyderman · 9 Dec 2014, 13:48 (Ref:3483415)

Hulkenberg's first impressions: "Great to drive, impressive down-force in fast corners, massive hybrid power"

Pontlieue · 9 Dec 2014, 16:18 (Ref:3483439)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

Hulkenberg's first impressions: "Great to drive, impressive down-force in fast corners, massive hybrid power"

It's interesting how all the drivers who did F1 and LMP1 recently, regardless of the direction (LMP1 to F1 or F1 to LMP1) mentioned the great downforce of the LMP1 cars. Lotterer even seemed disappointed with F1's downforce levels.

J Jay · 9 Dec 2014, 16:24 (Ref:3483440)

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Originally Posted by Pontlieue

It's interesting how all the drivers who did F1 and LMP1 recently, regardless of the direction (LMP1 to F1 or F1 to LMP1) mentioned the great downforce of the LMP1 cars. Lotterer even seemed disappointed with F1's downforce levels.

Didn't Wurz have a Twitter-spat with some F1 journalist who wrongly assumed that F1 cars made more downforce a couple of years ago? Since then the gap has probably got bigger. It makes sense - prototypes have the whole body to make downforce from (minus BHH obviously...) whereas F1 cars have less surface area to work with.

CyberMotor · 9 Dec 2014, 20:54 (Ref:3483519)

Interesting trends. In the past, whenever prototypes got close or surpassed F1 in performance, the FIA would do something to limit the sports cars. Now, with their hand in the WEC, it appears they are more likely to allow the prototypes to excel.

Let's hope anyway!

Rodger Davies · 9 Dec 2014, 22:46 (Ref:3483549)

Erm, it was their hand that brought down the last WSC, so I wouldn't be too excited about that - just enjoy it whilst it lasts!

GTfour · 9 Dec 2014, 23:04 (Ref:3483553)

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Originally Posted by Pontlieue

It's interesting how all the drivers who did F1 and LMP1 recently, regardless of the direction (LMP1 to F1 or F1 to LMP1) mentioned the great downforce of the LMP1 cars. Lotterer even seemed disappointed with F1's downforce levels.

I did an interview with Toyota's Alastair Moffitt for the Dutch motorsport site RaceXpress at this years Le Mans, were he told us that their 2014 Le Mans car ran more downforce then F1's at Monaco.

TF110 · 10 Dec 2014, 00:35 (Ref:3483586)

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Originally Posted by GTfour

I did an interview with Toyota's Alastair Moffitt for the Dutch motorsport site RaceXpress at this years Le Mans, were he told us that their 2014 Le Mans car ran more downforce then F1's at Monaco.

Thats bonkers

F1 is faster because they are allotted more fuel per lap and weigh significantly less.

Mal · 10 Dec 2014, 03:23 (Ref:3483616)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Erm, it was their hand that brought down the last WSC, so I wouldn't be too excited about that - just enjoy it whilst it lasts!

Yes put at that time the FIA were completely in Bernies pocket

cokata · 10 Dec 2014, 07:42 (Ref:3483670)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Thats bonkers

F1 is faster because they are allotted more fuel per lap and weigh significantly less.

Weight is paramount for cars that make downforce. P1 cars have alot more grip than f1 cars (especially in 2014), but the f1 cars are ~250kg lighter with the driver and that is a massive advantage.

TzeiTzei · 10 Dec 2014, 09:42 (Ref:3483690)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

Interesting trends. In the past, whenever prototypes got close or surpassed F1 in performance, the FIA would do something to limit the sports cars. Now, with their hand in the WEC, it appears they are more likely to allow the prototypes to excel.

Let's hope anyway!

FIA have kind of lost control of F1. I don't think that Todt is very unhappy to see other forms of motorsport raising their profile. Maybe his plan is to let F1 destroy itself and then pick up the pieces..

J Jay · 10 Dec 2014, 12:16 (Ref:3483718)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

Interesting trends. In the past, whenever prototypes got close or surpassed F1 in performance, the FIA would do something to limit the sports cars. Now, with their hand in the WEC, it appears they are more likely to allow the prototypes to excel.

Let's hope anyway!

... Go on then, I'll bite. Standardized race length/format, tarmac everywhere, Grade 1 or bust, equalizing grids, paywall streaming, etc.

NB: The above comment was not entirely serious.

Spyderman · 11 Dec 2014, 05:22 (Ref:3483957)

Now back to Porsche (sort of) : Word is that Alonso not coming.

TF110 · 11 Dec 2014, 08:13 (Ref:3483995)

Mako and Hulkenberg for the third car with one undecided driver. Christensen possibly?

**Aysedasi** · 11 Dec 2014, 11:09 (Ref:3484023)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

Now back to Porsche (sort of) : Word is that Alonso not coming.

Sounds about right......

**Aysedasi** · 11 Dec 2014, 11:11 (Ref:3484024)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Erm, it was their hand that brought down the last WSC, so I wouldn't be too excited about that - just enjoy it whilst it lasts!

Hopefully there is no truth in the rumour that Jean-Marie Balestre was cryogenically frozen to be brought back and unleashed upon us again......

Mike E · 11 Dec 2014, 12:14 (Ref:3484045)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Hopefully there is no truth in the rumour that Jean-Marie Balestre was cryogenically frozen to be brought back and unleashed upon us again......

He was cryogenically frozen when he was in office!

**Aysedasi** · 11 Dec 2014, 12:26 (Ref:3484050)

If only.......

CTD · 11 Dec 2014, 12:30 (Ref:3484055)

Let's hope no one perfects the unfreezing process of cryogenically freezing

Spyderman · 14 Dec 2014, 08:45 (Ref:3484862)

A little more news on when we may see the 2015 car and when we will learn what the driver line-up for the 3rd car will be.http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117141

Bandicoot17 · 15 Dec 2014, 16:47 (Ref:3485250)

New car has apparently rolled out: https://twitter.com/PorscheLMP1Fans/...33043558772736

First big test is the abu dhabi one in Jan.

Articus · 15 Dec 2014, 21:10 (Ref:3485327)

Not that the whole RS Spyder ordeal is anything to go by, but if this new 919 update is anything like the evolution of the RS to Spyder Evo, Porsche is going to be extremely tough to beat next year.

J Jay · 15 Dec 2014, 21:18 (Ref:3485333)

I think we've already seen enough in this years' car to reasonably assume that the 2015 919 is going to be fast. Now they need to keep the speed up over race distances...

Bandicoot17 · 15 Dec 2014, 22:29 (Ref:3485347)

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Originally Posted by Articus

Not that the whole RS Spyder ordeal is anything to go by, but if this new 919 update is anything like the evolution of the RS to Spyder Evo, Porsche is going to be extremely tough to beat next year.

I suppose it depends on how much the Toyota evolves as well.

Porsche definitely had the pace at the end of the season though, scarily quick at Bahrain for instance.

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