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2020 Season Launch/Pre-Season Testing
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Ferrari: Feb 11th at Maranello (seems to be just an unveiling) Renault: Feb 12th...not sure on location (not sure it even matters) Mclaren: Feb 13th at Woking Mercedes: Feb 14th at Silverstone (not quite a launch as it will apparently be private a shake down under the allowed 'filming day' rules). AlphaTauri: Feb 14th at Hanger 7 in Salzburg, Germany. an interesting mix of public and private events so far. testing dates: Barcelona: Feb 19th -21st Barcelona: Feb 26th-28th we are now down to 2 3-day tests sessions as opposed to 2 4-day tests from last year. continuing the trend for less on track testing, the two in season tests are also no longer. |
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Thanks for that
Look forward to the Ferrari one, should be exciting Renault will probably be low key Be interesting to see McLaren’s and Mercedes Don’t know what Alpha Tauri will do Not much in the way of testing and are we really only using those two for tests? Guess they have to cut costs, although I wouldn’t mind the odd in season test |
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Alpha Tauri, im guessing, will involve a lot of re branding efforts, new logos, new livery, new web site, apparel, team kit etc.
basically all the non car stuff launches used to be about. with the tests only being 3 days in length each, its almost like each test will be its own GP weekend...my early feeling is that there wont be much room for hiding nor sandbagging. |
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Thanks for the thread. We are less than a month away from seeing 2020 cars on track.
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Racing Point: Feb 17th at their BWT sponsors HQ in Mondsee, Austria.
i wonder if it will be last years car dressed in their 2020 livery or their actual car which they will then need to get to Barcelona for the 19th? |
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I have become less interested in the pre-testing launches other than to see new livery these days. And sometimes there is testing livery (that occasionally might be better than the final (typically conservative) race livery. As you mention above, I expect AlphaTauri to be the largest livery change. If you look at their website, I can't decode much about what the livery might look like. The brand logo and the entire site is quite simple and without color. White cars with black logos and text? Sounds boring to me. I will miss the recent Toro Rosso liveries as they were very good (in my opinion, better than the Red Bull). Richard |
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Not surprised Alfa are taking that approach, it’s simple. Don’t think the others like Haas and Williams will have anything out of the ordinary
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indeed. like the sensible approach!
bit surprised RBR hasent announced a date yet though. could be nothing could be something. |
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1. CGI (or mocked up older cars) at pre-testing launch. (or skip pre-testing launch) 2. Show real car at first day of testing. Probably in testing livery. Maybe show CGI of race livery. 3. Race livery and aero at first race. For all teams, you expect race aero to only show up at the first race. For wealth teams there may be big changes between testing and race. For the others, the aero may change little. Everyone will want to hide aero, so most will not show any "secret sauce" aero on pre-season launch. I think in the future marketing is excluded from the budget caps so flashy launches can continue. Wealthy teams who are spending up to the cap can devote money to media without stealing funding from the car. Those who are not able to spend up to the cap would be stealing money from the car to fund media. Either way, I expect most to continue to migrate away from old school expensive launches. Virtual launches (online, CGI cars) should be pretty cheap. Richard |
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i understand the necessity of their obfuscation, but ultimately i think it is, in the long run, self destructive. as car fans we want to celebrate a new car breaking cover but instead of that we are sort of, all be it indirectly, being told that these launches do not matter...maybe they are right. i may be wrong on this, but one of the proposed new rules is to limit the number of in season aero upgrades during the year...i wonder if this will make the need to hide ones work during launches even more important? anyways, the one thing i cant argue is that these types of launches are cost effective and F1 does need that. |
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Alfa/Sauber have always done the sensible approach. Wonder what is happening with RBR though. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye
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I see cyril Abiteboul is throwing his technical team under a bus especially Nick Chester.bearing in mind the shambles he presided over at Caterham and his handling of the Redbull relationship I reckon he needs a good look in a mirror. A Binotto or Wolfe he ain't...
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but he is the managing director of Renault sport...is he technically the team principle as well? as he is the public face of the team i suppose the titles may then be synonymous, but is he the ultimate decision maker for the team? |
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Haas: Feb 19th in front of their garage (a whole 15 minutes before the Alfa launch)
coincidence, a case of necessity, or an attempt to mess with the team that finished directly above them last season? i hope it is the latter. |
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Both waiting on Ferrari parts delivery, Haas bid more so they get delivery first of the new laptops to fire up??
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Williams, not surprised they are going for the digital option. Budget is tight for them these days and even under Frank they would spend no more than necessary
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RBR are doing a roll out at Silvertone on the 12th
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Have Haas taken a leaf out of Racing Point’s book and tied up with a major manufacturer, in this case Porsche? Because that livery looks an awful lot like the works Porsche livery
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All 8 hours each of the 6 days of testing to be broadcast live on Sky Sports F1, Sky Italia F1 and on F1TV Pro subscription service in other countries.
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I think historically Mercedes has done a great job with their livery. I think the silver with the tri-star logo is very nice (2019 Alfa Romeo testing livery took that concept to a new level and I wish they had kept it for the full season). The Patronas teal color fit in very well. But as to the new INEOS red (or black to red gradient)? Not so much. I don't care for it. But you gotta do what your sponsors want! Force India/Racing Point/Aston Martin (or whatever they call themselves these days) know this all to well with their pink cars! To be honest, I had no idea who INEOS was so I googled them (see that sponsorship is already working! ) And I see they using various colors on their corporate palette. Bicycle team uses the black to red, but America's cup is all black. I noticed the INEOS Grenadier project (again, something I didn't know existed) uses the red in it's website. Richard |
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i also had to google Ineos
would like to know how much additional web traffic they got after the announcement. while i really like that Merc signed/extended their sponsorship deal with Ineos and i like that one can infer that at this moment Merc are, for the foreseeable future, planning on staying in F1, i also dont like the colour choice.. something about the green/teal and the red/black on the front wing looks off to me. anyways, im sure i wont even notice after a race or two. i cant tell if the red star for Niki is still on the engine cover or not (i hope it is). |
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