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Old 3 Jun 2009, 17:04 (Ref:2474822)   #1
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NGTC: Which cars do you wanna see?

With BTCC introducing the Next Generation Touring Car in 2011. For fun I made a list of 5 cars I want to see on the grid:

1. Vauxhall/Opel Insignia
2. Ford Mondeo
3. Volkswagen Passat
4. Honda Accord
5. Toyota Avensis

On my shortlist:
Volvo S40
Mazda 6
Alfa Romeo 159


Which 5 cars do you wanna see?
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Old 3 Jun 2009, 17:38 (Ref:2474831)   #2
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How many different car models will be elegible, anyway? I mean, leaving out the Chinese for a moment, which cars would actually be possible?

The ADAC-Pannenstatistik lists the following cars under middleclass:

(Mercedes C-Class)
Audi A4
(BMW 3 series)
VW Passat
Skoda Octavia
Toyota Avensis
Mazda 6
Volvo S40/V40/V50
Renault Laguna
Opel Vectra (then Vauxhall Insignia)
Ford Mondeo

of those the Mercedes and the Bimmer are RWD and not possible, but then there's also:
Citroen C5
Seat Exeo
Alfa 159
Peugeot 407 (then 408)
Mitsubishi Lancer
Chevy Cruze
Honda Accord

Did I forget someone important? Do Fiat or Nissan have family-sedans right now?

Anyway, here's my list:
- Mitsubishi Lancer
- Mazda 6
- Renault Laguna
- Vauxhall Insignia
- Ford Mondeo

But I also really want the Passat and the Accord...
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Old 3 Jun 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2474839)   #3
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Maybe Passat CC?
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Old 3 Jun 2009, 17:52 (Ref:2474846)   #4
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I think the Fiat Bravo won't be allowed, but the car looks damn sporty! Would be nice to see it with a rear wing and with an engine making a lot of noise...
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Old 3 Jun 2009, 18:14 (Ref:2474864)   #5
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If the cost does turn out to be as low as claimed, the manufacturers could come flooding back.

I like the sound of these rules, hope it triggers a revival.
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I think the Fiat Bravo won't be allowed, but the car looks damn sporty! Would be nice to see it with a rear wing and with an engine making a lot of noise...
It does look good. Will the teams be able to add mad front and rear bumpers to make the length up? If so, that would look good.

Anyway, by 2011 Chrysler will be properly integrated into FIAT so we'll probably see that styling on larger cars soon.
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Old 4 Jun 2009, 06:54 (Ref:2475126)   #7
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Do Fiat or Nissan have family-sedans right now?
FIAT has Linea, but it's smaller car than the other ones mentioned.
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FIAT has Linea, but it's smaller car than the other ones mentioned.
It probably has a different name in Finland because I've never heard of a Fiat Linea.
Could you please post a link to some pictures?
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Here you go: http://www.delta.fi/Etusivu/Henkil%C...5/Default.aspx
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Well, it certainly doesn't look half bad. Bring it on!
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With BTCC introducing the Next Generation Touring Car in 2011. For fun I made a list of 5 cars I want to see on the grid:

1. Vauxhall/Opel Insignia
2. Ford Mondeo
3. Volkswagen Passat
4. Honda Accord
5. Toyota Avensis
The Insignia, Accord, Passat and Avensis are all too narrow for the rules. ...unless they run with crazy wheel arches
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Old 4 Jun 2009, 09:46 (Ref:2475230)   #12
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Would love to see Alfa's, Audis, Mitsubushi's and Subaru's banging doors with the Vauxhalls and Fords etc.

The more the merrier really.
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The Insignia, Accord, Passat and Avensis are all too narrow for the rules. ...unless they run with crazy wheel arches
Really?
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The Insignia, Accord, Passat and Avensis are all too narrow for the rules. ...unless they run with crazy wheel arches
I think you may need to read the rules more thoroughly. The rules say the width of the cars will be standardised so that they all run to the same 1875 width. The Accord for example is 1840 wide, so it would be increased to 1875 which is only about an extra 1.5 inches....so less than a two inch width increase doesn't mean "crazy wheel arches"! Same goes for all the other cars you stated, they are all within only a couple of inches of the 1875 so widening them will be hardly noticeable.
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I've never seen that car! It shouldn't be in production in Italy. Here's the Fiat Italia showroom
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