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If Max had run off into the distance and won, id have congratulated him on an amazing season...yes there was some flash points and driving that i didnt like, but overall they did an amazing job. Its not who won, its how it was won....which wasnt Maxs fault, and why i cant be annoyed that he did win... |
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Read this from back in June 21 following the Azerbaijan race.
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Not sure how anyone can see someone who does so much inside and outside the sport as entitled. IIRC Lewis attends most ceremonies, but not so much SPOTY because its in his winter break and training time....he has attended in the past though, attends the Laureus awards yearly. If you could point out which ones hes missed to back up your 'most' claim it would be appreciated though |
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20 Jan 2022, 12:15 (Ref:4094560) | #181 | ||
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yup.....which is where i wonder the claim of missing most awards ceremonies comes from....
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20 Jan 2022, 12:21 (Ref:4094561) | #182 | |
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Most notably he was not at the BGP promotional event in London a few years ago when every other driver was there. He has also appeared virtually at some when he was too "busy" elsewhere. he generally does not like meet and greets, even in his days at McLaren he let Jenson do most and then Nico at Mercedes. It may be that he is shy and prefers to communicate via Twitter!
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20 Jan 2022, 12:25 (Ref:4094562) | #183 | |||
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the BGP promotional event was arranged late, he already had a prior engagment booked so couldnt attend. Generally doesnt like meet and greets?...have you got anything to back that up? it doesnt take long to do a youtube search to see all the karting events, meet the fan events and STEM stuff hes done Just google lewis hamilton meet and greet, click images and you will see plenty, im pretty sure crowd surfing at silverstone counts too ;-p So entitled, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPlyxB10XA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5moH0gXC5iQ https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ton+meets+fans https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...amilton+awards https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...milton+charity Last edited by ascarracinguk; 20 Jan 2022 at 12:34. |
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Maybe his perceived reluctance to attend awards ceremonies comes from the way he is criticised when he does attend, by other professional sports people? 'Joey Barton is somewhat displeased that Lewis Hamilton received the Sports Personality of the Year award yesterday. In fact the QPR player decided it was an opportune moment to brand Hamilton a “tax exile” and bemoaned the fact he brought his dog, Roscoe, along to the awards ceremony in Glasgow.' |
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20 Jan 2022, 12:50 (Ref:4094568) | #185 | |||
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I meant to add in my previous reply to this post that immediately prior to joining this august body that I actually lived in Spain, and for all that anyone knows - apart from members that recall me from when I raced in saloons many, many moons ago - I might even be from the Netherlands and a distant relative of the Hart family who hail from that country and who, currently, very successfully race in historic machinery. Where you come from or live mostly has no bearing on how true followers of motor sport - and I don't count the great unwashed "fans" of F1 who are without doubt extremely partisan - support all drivers, but will often want a particular driver to be successful, and he may well come from your own country. In the fairly recent past, I admit that I cheered on Jenson Button and Damon Hill because they are both lovely guys, and the latter because I actually knew his father. I also shouted out for Jackie Stewart because I had a personal connection to him from years gone by, likewise Stirling Moss. However, I wouldn't have slavishly defended any of them if they had transgressed. |
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Over the years I've been a Moss, Clark, D. Hill and Button fan and supported many others like Mark Webber who are nice guys. I rather like Vettel as being highly intelligent, keeps off social media, looks to his family and tries to be sustainable. I am hoping that George Russell will be my next hero, he seems well brought up and grounded but like so many of the youngsters has yet to develop a personality. |
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Cool. That’s made things simple. We know your views on those drivers are now worth nothing. Still it will save you a lot of time posting. I guess it makes sense as your location checks out I imagine.
Of the current lot I’m not allowed an opinion on Vettel, Ocon and Leclerc. Of previous drivers my views on Senna and Prost should be retracted from the site. Which is interesting. I am allowed to opine about Mansell and Piquet though. Which is annoying for me. |
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How many award ceremonies must he miss to cross the threshold….. ..Oh wait, we’re still yet to find out…. I love kimi, was there at his first race and have always rated him, but I do often wonder if the responses he’s given to the media, were given by other drivers, if they would get a free pass or be chastised for being rude. |
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It’s a discussion forum, someone puts across their point of view and accusations and I can counter that with my own point of view, asking for evidence of their accusations to try and understand their view better and put forward evidence to counter their claims, which may or may not change their mind. That’s kinda how discussion forums and debates work. What was presented was an opinion that Lewis was entitled, largely based on the fact he didn’t attend awards ceremonies or meet and greets, I’ve countered that with videos to show otherwise, so I don’t think it’s too much to ask for someone to explain and discuss their opinion…..on a discussion forum You never know, having discussed the matter and put forward evidence that Derwents opinion was misguided based on the fact that Lewis HAS attended awards ceremonies and meet n greets, that he may infact change his mind now he is more informed, or he may not….again….kinda the point of discussing things… …now if his opinion remains the same that Lewis is utterly entitled having been presented with said information then that’s fine, but let’s just frame it as Derwant doesn’t like a driver, simply because he doesn’t rather than coming up with BS excuses to justify said opinion. Last edited by ascarracinguk; 20 Jan 2022 at 22:19. |
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Azerbaijan was Nascar comes to F1 with the added jeopardy of a standing start. P.S. I really think that Max got screwed here, they should have just declared the race when the flag was shown. Last edited by wnut; 21 Jan 2022 at 00:51. |
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100% needs to be parc ferme. But I think tyres etc should be able to be changed due to safety reasons, and the damaged tyre needs to be submitted to scrutineering to prove it was unsafe. If not, post-race 20 second penalty or something. |
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I bet there is wholesale panic within Liberty concerning the possibility that Hamilton will pull the pin and give them the finger on the way out. Hamilton staying will mean far more interest and viewers and that is why they are in F1.
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1-You’ve obviously never met Mark Webber 2-He raced 3 years of WEC after leaving F1 so obviously had nothing against racing other series. How many drivers leaving F1 would want to race a NASCAR wannabe series (which is what Supercars is)? |
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