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Old 5 Feb 2012, 09:22 (Ref:3021735)   #51
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Last few years it's taken 6 beers before they look any good, now I think we're getting onto a full dozen!!

When the team themselves say their car is not 'aesthetically pleasing'.......it's gone way too far! Would be like Penthouse featuring Susan Boyle.......just plain wrong! .
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 09:46 (Ref:3021741)   #52
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Last few years it's taken 6 beers before they look any good, now I think we're getting onto a full dozen!!

When the team themselves say their car is not 'aesthetically pleasing'.......it's gone way too far! Would be like Penthouse featuring Susan Boyle.......just plain wrong!


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Very good analogy!
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 15:44 (Ref:3021838)   #53
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 16:25 (Ref:3021858)   #54
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Best thing IMO is to not look at them side on.

At least the tyres are looking good.

Two very different philosophies with regard to aerodynamics. Which one is best?



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Old 5 Feb 2012, 18:27 (Ref:3021913)   #55
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Its not just aero, look at the difference in height between the front suspension mounting points.

From the current evidence I would go with the silver approach being best. Curious to see what the RBR is going to look like.
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3021922)   #56
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Something there is not right in both cars...
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Its not just aero, look at the difference in height between the front suspension mounting points.

From the current evidence I would go with the silver approach being best. Curious to see what the RBR is going to look like.
the Ferrari had pullrod suspension
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 19:42 (Ref:3021935)   #58
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Something there is not right in both cars...
What do you mean Bon?
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 21:03 (Ref:3021947)   #59
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The front wheels certainly have a very pronounced camber.
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 21:15 (Ref:3021955)   #60
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What do you mean Bon?
Where are the rear wheels?
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Old 5 Feb 2012, 23:17 (Ref:3021978)   #61
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the Ferrari had pullrod suspension
Indeed it does, which means that the spring units, and associated gubbins are mounted very low in the chassis.

Nice move, Ferrari.
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Seems ironic that the intro of pushrod front ends in the late 80s/early 90s brought on the raised nose concept, mainly thanks to Postlethwaite & Barnard.....as each year passed, they got higher.......& uglier!

Now Ferrari has gone back to old technology & yet the front bulk head is as high as ever...........with a nose desperatley needing some plastic surgery!

Lowering the CoG is fine but pullrods were ditched by all teams as they effectively work against the laws of physics..........it's easier to push than pull.


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Lowering the CoG is fine but pullrods were ditched by all teams as they effectively work against the laws of physics..........it's easier to push than pull.
Some of the teams, most noticeably Red Bull, also use pull-rod suspension at the rear. And it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.

As regards push and pull. There's no difference if it's engineered correctly.
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