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Old 8 Dec 2020, 17:05 (Ref:4021592)   #251
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Exactly, he’s proved he’s worthy of a top seat. Another drive either maintains the status quo or unproved it!

He's shown what he is capable of in one race, however can he sustain that? That's why I think Merecedes need to give him another go at Abu Dhabi.
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Old 8 Dec 2020, 17:07 (Ref:4021596)   #252
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Thanks Rwill, sounds about right
Another thing that popped in my head after toto blamed the walkie talkies, is I wonder if they do radio checks with the crew before calling them to get ready for a stop. If not, I bet it's a new protocol moving forward! Maybe out of the ground only a few are listening at all times, and they alert the group? But in that rush, maybe there wasn't time for a radio check, and not enough were listening at that moment? Who knows, like I said, I have no knowledge of how they do about the communication during the race with the crew, or if the whole crew is listening to team radio at all times, or if it's just a few or what. Just guessing at this point.
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Old 8 Dec 2020, 17:11 (Ref:4021597)   #253
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Didn't Russel say that he was almost at pit entry when he was called in? If so perhaps the crew expected Bottas to be first.
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Another thing that popped in my head after toto blamed the walkie talkies, is I wonder if they do radio checks with the crew before calling them to get ready for a stop. If not, I bet it's a new protocol moving forward! Maybe out of the ground only a few are listening at all times, and they alert the group? But in that rush, maybe there wasn't time for a radio check, and not enough were listening at that moment? Who knows, like I said, I have no knowledge of how they do about the communication during the race with the crew, or if the whole crew is listening to team radio at all times, or if it's just a few or what. Just guessing at this point.
Do me a favour i am quite sure AMG Mercedes F1 don't need any advice for anybody on any forum about how to run a radio system . When exactly would they have done the pre message radio check? They responded to an instant situation - a SC - which is why they double stacked . No doubt it will be a 50c part such as a switch but sometimes Stuff just happens?.........
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Old 8 Dec 2020, 17:16 (Ref:4021599)   #255
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Do me a favour i am quite sure AMG Mercedes F1 don't need any advice for anybody on any forum about how to run a radio system . When exactly would they have done the pre message radio check? They responded to an instant situation - a SC - which is why they double stacked . No doubt it will be a 50c part such as a switch but sometimes Stuff just happens?.........
Wow, that was hostile out of nowhere. Did you miss where I said I was just guessing? Did you miss the question Mark's? Where did I say they needed my advice? Not sure what of what I wrote got you so upset, but ok....

Or, channelling Adam, forum members opinions obviously not needed, shut down the site, nothing to do here...
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Old 8 Dec 2020, 17:22 (Ref:4021600)   #256
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RWill2073. Opinions needed. Obviously. If you have taken anything different then you’ve missed the point. Also taking what people actual say on board wouldn’t go a miss rather than just wanting to score points on the internet. Channeling 10-10ths approach, rather than Twitter.

How they are expressed is the important bit. No need to be so dismissive, billy beach.
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Well, to state the bleedin' obvious, on Sunday they clearly did.....
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Not wishing to take this conversation off (the present) topic, but does anyone know whether Lewis can make Abu Dhabi?
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He appears to be optimistic....

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...A5KpuiasG.html


...subject to a negative test, of course.
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RWill2073. Opinions needed. Obviously. If you have taken anything different then you’ve missed the point. Also taking what people actual say on board wouldn’t go a miss rather than just wanting to score points on the internet. Channeling 10-10ths approach, rather than Twitter.

How they are expressed is the important bit. No need to be so dismissive, billy beach.
For the record, I was just going for a joke in your style, but I can't pull it off like you
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Sorry for taking it the wrong way

I should have assumed positive intent
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Not wishing to take this conversation off (the present) topic, but does anyone know whether Lewis can make Abu Dhabi?
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He appears to be optimistic....

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...A5KpuiasG.html


...subject to a negative test, of course.
I read it would be difficult with immigration/quarantine arrangements yesterday, but then quickly after they were hopeful.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...r-abu-dhabi-gp

As Ayse says, he’s not tested positive yet, but another, later, article said that in theory should do.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...habi-gp-return

And the latest on Autosport is that he got up and felt great today.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-hardest-weeks
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I keep noticing on social media posts along the lines of "Hamilton, show us you are a true sportsman and let Russell drive again", it is really frequent and odd. Did the bots get bored of posting "WTO Let's Go!" or something?
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Not wishing to take this conversation off (the present) topic, but does anyone know whether Lewis can make Abu Dhabi?

He tested positive on Monday, 30th and there is 14 day self-isolation period. The event starts this Friday with the FP sessions, so he should have to remain in self-isolation.
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I keep noticing on social media posts along the lines of "Hamilton, show us you are a true sportsman and let Russell drive again", it is really frequent and odd. Did the bots get bored of posting "WTO Let's Go!" or something?
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He tested positive on Monday, 30th and there is 14 day self-isolation period. The event starts this Friday with the FP sessions, so he should have to remain in self-isolation.
One of the Autosport articles speculated he could miss Friday practice, but would need to do at least take part in qualifying.

All depends not the rules and what was agreed with F1 for Abu Dhabi.
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From my couch, with no real insight, I heard toto and just took it as a manager not publicly throwing anyone under the bus. The walkytalky thing was just an easy way to drop the subject.
for those who haven't used the radio systems...

what toto said made sense. you can get overlaps when two people talk at once. the system prioritises certain users over others, and it sounds like the two different car groups had a difference in priorities that caused the russell call to be missed.

in the simple systems in non-f1 teams (what i'm familiar with), it usually operates on several channels. each car has a channel, and you can set up each radio accordingly. eg someone not involved in one specific car can have both, and one cars messages will take priority over the other. the risk of clashes (and cost) is why many teams outside f1 operate with just a few two way sets, many are listen only and nobody speaks unless absolutely necessary.
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...and nobody speaks unless absolutely necessary.

Sounds like a mantra for life...... or at least for those who have to say something (as opposed to those who have something to say..... ).
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The Abu Dhabi government will decide
If he’s clear when he’s in Bahrain and then flys to Abu Dhabi and tests clear again he will race
It’s Abu Dhabi and they are pragmatic with this type of decision
Probably give him a suite in Emirates Palace .
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for those who haven't used the radio systems...

what toto said made sense. you can get overlaps when two people talk at once. the system prioritises certain users over others, and it sounds like the two different car groups had a difference in priorities that caused the russell call to be missed.

in the simple systems in non-f1 teams (what i'm familiar with), it usually operates on several channels. each car has a channel, and you can set up each radio accordingly. eg someone not involved in one specific car can have both, and one cars messages will take priority over the other. the risk of clashes (and cost) is why many teams outside f1 operate with just a few two way sets, many are listen only and nobody speaks unless absolutely necessary.
Good summary Bella.

“The radio system knows to prioritise the messages coming from Ron because the most important thing is the tyres are there, more so than whenever a driver says or whatever someone else in the crew might say but it looks like there is a period whereby the system is deciding to let the prioritised message through, we missed a key bit of the broadcast such that half of the tyre collectors didn’t get the message and it looks like half of them did.”

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...-it-went-wrong
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