|
| Site Partners: | SpotterGuides | Veloce Books |
| Related Sites: | Your Link Here |
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:05 (Ref:929851)
|
#26 | |||
|
Forum Host
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 6,529
 |
Quote:
ok racing incident fair enough.... i disagree with ralf because eventhough he was a nose ahead... they probably had equal oppurtunity to take the position. racing incident probably.... |
|||
|
__________________
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off." 
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:09 (Ref:929855)
|
#27 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 517
|
Ralf fan,
Honestly mate, not being funny, what precisely are you a fan of? I mean, each to his own and all that, but I can't see one single aspect of Ralfs persona to be a fan of. |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:11 (Ref:929859)
|
#28 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 897
|
I thought it was an interesting conversation between martin and james during the race about ralf and is he worth the 60 mil move to toyota next season that has been talked about. If things continue the way they are i think sir frank will be looking for not 1 but 2 new drivers for next season. I think ralf was under the impression that he would have a car that could win this years championship (and so did the rest of us after those pre-season testing times) and this has made him well to be frank p---ed off. Maybe thats the reason for his drop off in performance but then again a 60m driver would be able to turn that around wouldnt they?
|
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:12 (Ref:929863)
|
#29 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
When a horse is dead sick, people shoot it to put it out of it's misery.
Would someone please shoot Ralf now... |
|
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:19 (Ref:929867)
|
#30 | ||
|
Ten-Tenths Hall of Fame
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,181
 |
He was naughty in both incidents. I am particularly frustrated as Fisi might have gotten a point, if Ralf hadn't been such an idiot.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:34 (Ref:929879)
|
#31 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 995
|
Ralf got a warning for the crash with Sato.
|
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:39 (Ref:929884)
|
#32 | |
|
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
If Sato had retired, I think the punishment would have been a ten place grid-demotion for Imola.
As Sato finished, and finished strongly, he's got away with it. |
|
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:41 (Ref:929886)
|
#33 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,508
|
Ralf's drive was a rather embarrassing one & if Toyota sign him for next year then it will be a long time before they're competitive as to have gone since France without a podium is too long when you are sitting in the second best car in the field.
|
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 16:48 (Ref:929894)
|
#34 | ||
|
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,304
|
I concurr, another poor race from Ralf who once again got all giddy when in close proximity to another car.
I can't imagine anyone watching from Toyota would be too quick to get Ralf's CV out of the envelope, on that performance, but then again they seem to have allegedly seen something in Ralf that many haven't. A poor performance and no amount of excuses can cover the fact that at this level as an 'all round' driver Ralf isn't top drawer (IMO). |
||
|
|
__________________
'I've seen it, but still don't believe it.....'
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 17:50 (Ref:929959)
|
#35 | ||
|
Subscriber
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,304
|
To add to it all, what must surely be quote of the race from Ralf....
"All in all, I am not too disappointed because I have seen from the data that I was running close to Ferrari's pace, whenever I had free track ahead." LOL - you couldn't make it up! Bearing in mind that Patrick Head conversely rated Ralf's race as a "bloody mess".... Looks like a good week ahead for Ralf's contract talks having advertised his 'skill's' infront of several prospective employers....(allegedly according to W Weber) |
||
|
|
__________________
'I've seen it, but still don't believe it.....'
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 18:24 (Ref:929986)
|
#36 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 517
|
Bloody hell. So Ralf thinks its good that his data shows he was sat in a definite third place car, but ran around mid grid bumping into everyone and everythink.
I mean, the only better quote than that could be " I reckon if the others didn't show up I coulda won that one"... |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 18:25 (Ref:929990)
|
#37 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 517
|
Mind you, at least unlike Rubens, he didn't blame the 'rain'!
Blimey, compared to this lot, Nigel Mansell was an amateur when it came to excuses. |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 18:50 (Ref:930014)
|
#38 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 319
|
I WAS a Ralf fan until today, in fact i'm going to change my signature. I have just switched on my computer to find out the stewards verdict and cannot believe it's nothing. Also schumacher said '"It was a racing incident,He was a bit optimistic to think that he could immediately get back the position he had just lost." WHAT! Has the man's contacts clouded over? I cannot believe he has not been given a penalty. What is the stewards reasoning for letting him get away with this? I think that the FIA should start making Schumacher race a week behind everyone else in the interest of saftey.
|
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:22 (Ref:930054)
|
#39 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,986
|
If Sato had retired because of it I may have sent him the hate mail of the month. A warning is not exactly punishment but its only one race. I say if he makes a mess of the next race then he should be really punished. Maybe he still thinks his Williams is leagues ahead of the BAR. Sorry RS, you are wrong there. Or maybe he expeted Sato to roll over and play dead. Sato? Play dead? That will never happen. Sato may be the most aggressive racer I've wittnessed in F1.
RS was clearly embarrassed by his performance today and attempting to save face. He needs to have a drink and try to move on. |
||
|
|
__________________
Eventually we learn
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:24 (Ref:930056)
|
#40 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 234
|
Sign of stress, Phsyco effect,..etc...if he can't put a decent race at Imola, everyone will be re-thinking over him...he lost one just now!
Poor Ralf... |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:36 (Ref:930075)
|
#41 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 319
|
Can teams 'release' drivers from there contracts early if the performance isn't up to scratch. As a Williams fan i'm disapointed that one car was going to be a podium finnisher again and the other was just about making it in the points. Put someone else in the car please. Villeneuve will do.(sorry)
|
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:46 (Ref:930091)
|
#42 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 470
|
Does anyone else think his 'argy bargy' manner might not be due to his sportscar racing days? Perhaps he'd be a star in touring cars...
|
||
|
|
__________________
The wonderful dexterity of Hannu Mikkola, makes me want to shake hands with the whole of Finland. (Architecture And Morality, Ted And Alice - Half Man Half Biscuit)
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:55 (Ref:930104)
|
#43 | ||
|
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,592
|
I agree with most of what has been said. Ralf was not impressive today. And not a good time for him or Willi!
It helped demonstrate this when Sato gave a lesson in how to race! And it seems he was too slow on his in-lap after the incident. to use that quote again, today Ralf('s race) was a "bloody mess". Last edited by Adam43; 4 Apr 2004 at 19:56. |
||
|
|
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 19:55 (Ref:930105)
|
#44 | ||
|
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
|
Quote:
The contract guarantees you'll be paid but it doesn't mean the team have to race you. RS should be benched and Gene put in the race team for a while. I can't see why any team would want to employ Ralf. Erratic driver, bad attitude. |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 20:37 (Ref:930147)
|
#45 | |||
|
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,592
|
Quote:
 Fantastic.
|
|||
|
|
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 20:58 (Ref:930182)
|
#46 | ||
 Race OfficialVeteran
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,776
|
Frank, get rid of him please! He's dragging the team down. Patrick said it right. A bloody mess.
As a Williams fan for many years, Ralf's performances from the second half of last season up to now is absolutely sickening. Millions of pounds of investment to develop a car which is worthy of making some sort of challenge is going down the drain. Because of him. 
|
||
|
|
__________________
Successfully crashing a probe into the moon is like saying you successfully swam the English Channel by having your corpse wash up on the beach.
|
|
4 Apr 2004, 21:21 (Ref:930217)
|
#47 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 196
|
Another poor race. He really has proved himself a liability this year.
|
||
|
|
|
|
5 Apr 2004, 02:29 (Ref:930430)
|
#48 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,157
|
Agree.
Ralf is awful in the pack. Toyota would be in midfield too... |
|
|
|
__________________
Racing is in my...err... I was born to...um... Winning is...things and stuff...etc.. For sure!
|
|
5 Apr 2004, 03:04 (Ref:930449)
|
#49 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,565
|
Well, I can't add much to everyones assessments of Ralf today, quite a disappointing performance. It seems as though one of his problems is a lack of real, seat of the pants, car control. When he loses it, he loses it. The pressure of his ongoing contract woes is causing him to make a lot of mistakes, and exercise quite poor judgement in the company of his fellow racers. It is going to cost him his drive at Williams, and his chances of employment elsewhere.
Perhaps he needs to go for a long, soul-searching drive on the autobahn  .
|
||
|
|
|
|
5 Apr 2004, 03:25 (Ref:930455)
|
#50 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 689
|
I know it's not very nice but I LOVE THIS THREAD!
Sorry about that, Mike |
||
|
|
__________________
Congratulations Kimi!
|
 |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Ralf's attitude again.... | Kicking-back | Formula One | 45 | 14 Apr 2004 19:27 |
| Ralf's at it again! | BootsOntheSide | Formula One | 10 | 5 Jan 2002 22:29 |
| Why was TGF not Ralf's Weding | rdjones | Formula One | 22 | 14 Oct 2001 09:55 |
| Ralf's 10 Second Penalty | EERO | Formula One | 89 | 30 Jun 2001 01:57 |
| Ralf's just too fast | Wrex | Formula One | 13 | 24 Apr 2001 21:03 |
Linear Mode
