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Old 9 Jan 2019, 02:47 (Ref:3874860)   #61
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As i said in the my reply To Sgriffin, Benetton wouldn't have missed the races if Senna had lived. There would be no need to spice it up.
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Fair comment.
Of course there's no way in the world there was anything artificial about that season post Imola!!
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Of course there's no way in the world there was anything artificial about that season post Imola!!
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Senna would have beaten him to wins with the developed FW16 but Schu would be 2nd or 3rd every race so it would be very tough to claw back the deficit.

Call me cynical but I don't think for a second Schu/Benetton would have been banned for 2 races and dq from another if Ayrton hadn't been killed!
Given the influence that Senna had, and how long it took for the FIA to investigate the Benetton electronics, I personally think it's realistic that Benetton would've been found out earlier, and then Senna would've had the advantage.

It's all obviously ifs and buts and we'll never know the answer, but it's an interesting thought experiment. I personally think Senna would've taken the title after the TC was found earlier after more verbal protests from Senna.
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Given the influence that Senna had, and how long it took for the FIA to investigate the Benetton electronics, I personally think it's realistic that Benetton would've been found out earlier, and then Senna would've had the advantage.

It's all obviously ifs and buts and we'll never know the answer, but it's an interesting thought experiment. I personally think Senna would've taken the title after the TC was found earlier after more verbal protests from Senna.
Also very valid points, yes.
Ayrton would not have let it lie!!
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Old 11 Jan 2019, 09:14 (Ref:3875442)   #66
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Senna always suspected Benetton were cheating. So he probably would alerted the FIA earlier
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Here's another one.

What would have happened had Warwick' 1984 Renault been as competitive as Prost's 82 and 83 ones?

My memory tells me that the 84 car was arguably 2nd best to Mclaren in terms of performance early in '84 but then fell away badly as the season wore on.
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Well one reason he turned down Williams for 85 was because he felt the Renault just needed to sort out it's reliability as he had come close to winning one or two in 84. Remember he almost won first time out in Brazil. Meanwhile the Williams-Honda was terrible and only won in Dallas because the handling disadvantage was negated there, as was the fact Rosberg was driving it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though
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Yes FW09 was a bit of a carthorse if i remember?
Some of those '84 and '85 races were crazy with unreliability or cars running out of fuel!

I often wonder how the front of the field might have looked in 1985 or '86 had some drivers either not been killed or badly injured earlier in the decade and I don't just mean drivers already in F1.
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