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Old 29 Aug 2018, 21:25 (Ref:3846960)   #16
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BTW, 1989 was the year Brabham returned to F1 and I was very happy to see Brundle and Modena at Monaco,
very proud of them. I'm a Brabham fan of all by means.
Off topic a bit, but speaking of Brabham and Lotus....
My friend (a Brabham fan...Jack and his cars) and I (Lotus and Rindt fan) were going crazy watching Jochen chase down Brabham in the '70 Monaco GP on the telly. I was elated by Rindt's drive and win, yet, along with my buddy, heartbroken for Jack and his error so close to the line....

Now, back to 1989....

edit: 'Sorry guys. It just dawned on me that I should have PM'd Mekola. I apologize.
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Old 15 Dec 2018, 12:06 (Ref:3870468)   #17
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Welcome to the forum. 1989, my favourite team was Onyx.
The violet and white cars financed by Moneytron.
It seems JP Van Rossem was a true pioneer.
And Johansson did his last ever podium with them.

McLaren today is Lotus in 1989...
Jean-Pierre Van Rossem has passed away at the age of 73.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...x-f1-team-dies
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Old 15 Dec 2018, 16:58 (Ref:3870529)   #18
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Yeah, he certainly had an interesting life. Shame his funding of Onyx didnít last long enough
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Old 21 Dec 2018, 15:26 (Ref:3871828)   #19
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Shame Onyx couldn't continue. Great little team, well run, good staff, drivers etc.

Bet they would have been up with Tyrrell as best of the rest in 1990 had they found more money.

Just been thinking about the Williams in '89/90. Patrese and Boutsen did ok but I reckon that if the team had a properly quick ace in one of the seats they would have been challenging for wins most of the time.
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Old 21 Dec 2018, 18:34 (Ref:3871859)   #20
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Patrese was definitely more consistent and we already know he could occasionally beat Mansell, so itís a big what if
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Patrese was definitely more consistent and we already know he could occasionally beat Mansell, so itís a big what if
Patrese was a quicker version of Boutsen.

Both solid no.2's but I feel based on their careers which included stints in at least 2 top teams each, they did not do anything that justified them getting team lead status.

Berger was perhaps one of the best no.2's of the modern era and I never thought of him as a big championship challenger. However, he was better than those 2.

I wonder if the reason Williams had those 2 guys for 89/90 was because no-one better was available, and/or possibly one of the drivers Sir Frank really wanted was seriously injured in 1988.
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Iíd say Patrese was more a number 1.5 as they say. Quick enough to rise to the occasion when needed. Who can forget him snatching pole in the spare Williams set up for Nige in Portugal?
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Iíd say Patrese was more a number 1.5 as they say. Quick enough to rise to the occasion when needed. Who can forget him snatching pole in the spare Williams set up for Nige in Portugal?
Which was still an FW14 chassis it must be said!!
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