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Old 30 May 2022, 20:56 (Ref:4112139)   #101
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Butcher's good, he's in an uncompetitive car against tough opposition. His performance depends on the car, sometimes he has to take risks in traffic. I admit it doesn't look great, but he seems to be getting better at avoiding incidents. Collard is barely doing any better. It seems the car has lost quite a bit of performance this year
So much for Speedworks having a head start on the Hybrid!
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Old 30 May 2022, 21:24 (Ref:4112142)   #102
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if they had Jordan as driver maybe

really miss him
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Old 30 May 2022, 21:39 (Ref:4112143)   #103
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Does it work though?!

When was the last genuine time a FWD got close to winning the championship?
When was the last time that the best driver was in a FWD car?
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Old 30 May 2022, 22:32 (Ref:4112150)   #104
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if they had Jordan as driver maybe

really miss him
Gosh I don't!
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Old 31 May 2022, 06:11 (Ref:4112170)   #105
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Crmalcolm has hit the nail on the head there - while the champs might have been won by RWD cars, they have had probably the best drivers of those seasons in them. Sutton is showing it isn't just down to the drivetrain in his switch to a Ford Focus - he had 3 podium visits this weekend and is 2nd in the championship yet he still isn't happy with the car!
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Old 31 May 2022, 08:11 (Ref:4112182)   #106
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Sutton is showing it isn't just down to the drivetrain in his switch to a Ford Focus - he had 3 podium visits this weekend and is 2nd in the championship yet he still isn't happy with the car!
Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.
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Old 31 May 2022, 18:19 (Ref:4112292)   #107
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Absolutely gutted for JP after race 3.

Nice drives by Cookie. Hill couldn't quite get there.

I'm left wondering if Ash could end up winning the championship this year with hardly any wins - he's becoming the new Turkington, Mr. Consistency.
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Old 31 May 2022, 20:37 (Ref:4112318)   #108
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What are the odds Cookie can repeat his double win on the next visit to Thruxton?
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Old 31 May 2022, 20:45 (Ref:4112319)   #109
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What are the odds Cookie can repeat his double win on the next visit to Thruxton?
He was on pole with 2nd place hybrid penalty, so say it's pretty likely he can get pole again, unless they change the hybrid or it rains.
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Old 31 May 2022, 20:49 (Ref:4112320)   #110
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He was on pole with 2nd place hybrid penalty, so say it's pretty likely he can get pole again, unless they change the hybrid or it rains.
Or some other teams improve their setups.
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Old 1 Jun 2022, 06:22 (Ref:4112337)   #111
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Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.
Yup - I think it also shows the engineer and No1 mechanic are key factors in results. No wonder Ash takes his team with him
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Old 1 Jun 2022, 07:15 (Ref:4112341)   #112
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Or some other teams improve their setups.
Exactly, if Motorbase (for example) can continue to unlock the potential currently hidden inside their Focus, Ash Sutton could be a strong contender for the two wins.
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Also - the Infiniti that Sutton used to such good effect last year is now nowhere. When people talk about the RWD advantage a lot of that is the "WSR have built a good car and the BMW drivers are all decent" advantage.
Watching him bludgeon the Focus round Thruxton was a really good demonstration of what a monster of a driver he is. Right on the edge, and sometimes slightly over it, but more or less in control all of the time. Damned impressive.

I honestly think he should have a crack down under at some point, his driving style would really suit Supercars.
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Watching him bludgeon the Focus round Thruxton was a really good demonstration of what a monster of a driver he is. Right on the edge, and sometimes slightly over it, but more or less in control all of the time. Damned impressive.


Just like Ingram when he drove the Toymotor, and why he was always there or thereabouts. Butcher just doesn't have the same finesse that Ingram had in it, which is why he doesn't feature on the podium in the same car.
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Old 1 Jun 2022, 10:17 (Ref:4112368)   #115
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I honestly think he should have a crack down under at some point, his driving style would really suit Supercars.
Heh. I forgot he'd already been and had a test day with WAU in 2018!
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Shame nothing came out of it. Would be amazing to see Ash in Supercars. However, I can't recall a single non-Oz or NZ driver succeeding in Supercars.
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Well... there was the Canadian driver Allan Moffat who won the championship 4 times *and* Bathurst 4 times.

And then some blokes called Muller, Bourdais, Premat, Lyons and Salo have had victories (as co-drivers, admittedly).
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Well... there was the Canadian driver Allan Moffat who won the championship 4 times *and* Bathurst 4 times.

And then some blokes called Muller, Bourdais, Premat, Lyons and Salo have had victories (as co-drivers, admittedly).
Yes, Moffat is a good example but it was many many years ago.
The likes of Muller or Bourdais were co-drivers which is a bit of a different thing.

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The Ollie Jackson contact with Jade Edwards incident that was carried over to be looked at after that meeting….

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