Kick Those Shoes Off and Relax. It's the Delta 2017 Tea Break

[delta]

Yes that made me laugh as well . Thank you Bob

[Mike Harte]

Sincerely hope that Mrs Delta is making a comfortable recovery, with you lavishing attention to her every need.

[Gerard C]

Well done, mon ami Robert! Made me smile as well.

[bauble]

Every little helps Iain, so have another laugh on me.

[B]...A touching story on how men think ..
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As she sat by him, he whispered, his eyes full of tears:* "You know what?
*You have been with me all through the bad times.
When I got fired, you were there to support me.
When my business failed, you were there.
When I got shot, you were by my side.
When we lost the house, you stayed right here.
When my health started failing, you were still by my side!
You know what Martha?"
"What dear?" she gently asked, smiling as her heart began to fill with warmth.
"I'm beginning to think you're *******g bad luck."
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[owrforever]

Can anyone tell me what an "original mile" is? The auction houses are always talking about X car having X number of "original miles." I assume there can be only one "original mile." Figure it has to be located somewhere in the UK since you folks invented it. Is it the first mile from Parliament, or Buckingham Palace? Since there can be only one "original mile," what are all the other original miles that these auction houses declare? What is the standard for "low miles?" What's the cutoff? What are low, original miles? These questions keep me up at night!

[grantp]

Originally Posted by owrforever

Can anyone tell me what an "original mile" is? The auction houses are always talking about X car having X number of "original miles." I assume there can be only one "original mile." Figure it has to be located somewhere in the UK since you folks invented it. Is it the first mile from Parliament, or Buckingham Palace? Since there can be only one "original mile," what are all the other original miles that these auction houses declare? What is the standard for "low miles?" What's the cutoff? What are low, original miles? These questions keep me up at night!

It's an optional distance measurement that can be used in place of a Genuine Mile.

An original mile is the equivalent of 10 Genuine Miles - or thereabouts.

[Mike Bell]

It's a measurement used by the motor trade and based on a calculation using bull ****.

Couple of nights ago I caught the Guy Martin prog when he was doing the wheel change for Williams at Spa. That's some pressure and fair play to him having a go. He seemed to really enjoy the cars and camaraderie as well....

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by owrforever

Can anyone tell me what an "original mile" is? The auction houses are always talking about X car having X number of "original miles." I assume there can be only one "original mile." Figure it has to be located somewhere in the UK since you folks invented it. Is it the first mile from Parliament, or Buckingham Palace? Since there can be only one "original mile," what are all the other original miles that these auction houses declare? What is the standard for "low miles?" What's the cutoff? What are low, original miles? These questions keep me up at night!

Another phrase you'll often see on UK car adverts is "one lady owner". This is meant to imply that the car was been driven with care & well-treated... but of course you know different to that!!

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

but of course you know different to that!!

[VIVA GT]

I think an original mile is an old British Standard similar to The Firkin.
The Firkin was the British Standard measurement of excess. It was always used in units of two, as in Two Firkin big or Two Firkin heavy etc...

[bauble]

Originally Posted by owrforever

Can anyone tell me what an "original mile" is? The auction houses are always talking about X car having X number of "original miles." I assume there can be only one "original mile." Figure it has to be located somewhere in the UK since you folks invented it. Is it the first mile from Parliament, or Buckingham Palace? Since there can be only one "original mile," what are all the other original miles that these auction houses declare? What is the standard for "low miles?" What's the cutoff? What are low, original miles? These questions keep me up at night!

It is quite simple really; Original miles are all of the miles the car has covered since new up until it being sold on, after that all following miles can be described as 'original miles'.

each added mile is of course the next original mile to be added to the total number of original miles covered since new.

Clear now?

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

The Firkin was the British Standard measurement of excess.

Thanks Viva, even for a french stupido its Firkin clear now

[delta]

Years ago a mate of mine who worked at McClaren asked if i wanted to go as a guest to British GP. I said sure but only if I can get involved with the pit stop.
Did not happen.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Another phrase you'll often see on UK car adverts is "one lady owner". This is meant to imply that the car was been driven with care & well-treated... but of course you know different to that!!

Quite right John, 'One careful owner' always carried an unwritten caveat..

"I don't know what the rest were like"

[morninggents]

Actually it was an item in the additional parts available (and homologated) in the catalogues of Griffiths, E Types and Cobras in the mid sixties that could be kept in the boot (a bit like the rear spoilers on the Alfas likely to be used in BTCC a few years back) that could be attached at any time as these models evolved over the years and seen frequently today at Spa and Goodwood, etc.

[owrforever]

Is "Two Firkin" equivalent to the American redneck, politically correct, salty expletive "Too *******'?" I assume a Firkin is in excess of a regular mile, equaling two miles. Would a one lady owner 1966 Chevelle 396 SS with 50,000 miles be allotted more Firkin credits than a 396 SS owned by a 18 year old, testosterone loaded male who drove his Chevy 5000 miles, a 1/4 mile at a time, say at 6000 rpm? Are his miles more "original" than her's?

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by owrforever

Is "Two Firkin" equivalent to the American redneck, politically correct, salty expletive "Too *******'?" I assume a Firkin is in excess of a regular mile, equaling two miles. Would a one lady owner 1966 Chevelle 396 SS with 50,000 miles be allotted more Firkin credits than a 396 SS owned by a 18 year old, testosterone loaded male who drove his Chevy 5000 miles, a 1/4 mile at a time, say at 6000 rpm? Are his miles more "original" than her's?

The 18 year-old's 1/4-miles wouldn't count as they are not complete miles, so that would make his Chevy an "amazing zero-miles find"!

[bauble]

Originally Posted by owrforever

Is "Two Firkin" equivalent to the American redneck, politically correct, salty expletive "Too *******'?" I assume a Firkin is in excess of a regular mile, equaling two miles. Would a one lady owner 1966 Chevelle 396 SS with 50,000 miles be allotted more Firkin credits than a 396 SS owned by a 18 year old, testosterone loaded male who drove his Chevy 5000 miles, a 1/4 mile at a time, say at 6000 rpm? Are his miles more "original" than her's?

I would hazard a guess that 'Original miles' are those registered prior to the speedo being 'clocked'.

[gary396]

I suspect my neighbours think I've fallen on hard times and that my car has been repossessed! It's lease expired the other day and as arranged some guys came to collect it on behalf of BMW so the driveway is currently. I'm just waiting until someone happens to casually ask!

Might put a begging bowl outside the front door. 😀

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by gary396

I suspect my neighbours think I've fallen on hard times and that my car has been repossessed! It's lease expired the other day and as arranged some guys came to collect it on behalf of BMW so the driveway is currently. I'm just waiting until someone happens to casually ask!

Might put a begging bowl outside the front door. 😀

Yes, always fun if a transporter arrives and loads your car up. Did you notice any curtains twitching? Leave an old bicycle propped up against the garage door to get full sympathy......

[gary396]

Yes a bit of curtain twitching Mike. The vehicle inspector had quite a loud voice and it was fairly early so I think they wondered what was going on. 😀

[gary396]

In other news I see that Volvo have just launched their latest 4WD / SUV called an XC40 with the strap line 'Built For The City' - sort of reinforces the 'Chelsea Tractor' tag.

[Tim Falce]

This may warrant its own thread but I'll start it here. Being the owner of an old Yank tank I venture onto forums that cater for the type. For those that aren't aware, from May next year there's going to be a rolling 40-year-old exemption for MOTs on cars of historic interest.

All very nice you might think but the catch is you'll need to self declare that the car hasn't been radically modified and must meet an eight point rule to qualify. Even if you can pass the eight point rule you can't have increased the power to weight ratio by more than 15%. This was passed into law last week so it is happening, the 15% part is still under discussion.

So now a lot of people are panicking as the general consensus is cars that don't qualify will be taken off the road, it's already happening when you apply for historic tax status although this is more to do with imports that aren't roadworthy at the moment, where they are being refused V5s.

It's not only the ordinary bloke that's affected as there is now an issue with an Aston that was modified at the heritage factory, although this seems to be a DVLA issue, link here.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aston...s-stuart-brown
Here are some links to the MOT situation, make of it what you will.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...worthiness.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...e-guidance.pdf

It's all getting confusing with different Govt. departments making rules up, some of which seem to contradict their own thinking, nothing new there, so I was wondering what your thoughts are is it will affect any of us that have even slightly modified cars, race or not.

[Lancsbreaker]

Don't you just be "economical with the actualite" (acute accent on the last letter) and claim all mods were pre-88............?

[Riley Blue]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

Don't you just be "economical with the actualite" (acute accent on the last letter) and claim all mods were pre-88............?

As all that is required is a 'declaration' to that effect the problem, if it is one, is very easily solved, n'est se pas?