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Old 13 Apr 2007, 12:09 (Ref:1890366)   #16
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there will be a little frenchman somewhere with a dust cover over 1 of these cars since 1984 when it was last used
It will not be long before 1 or 2 cars are "found"

i was offered the Pygmee a few years ago
where have all the Ligier cars gone? Martini f2 and f1 cars?

The Matra LM cars sat in a private collection until 2 years ago then 1 man bought 2 of the cars to add to his 3 other cars
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 21:35 (Ref:1898014)   #17
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Maybe some new information on one of the alpines this site: http://www.eccehomo.cz/old_version/r.../res_1981.html
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1. 2 Dieter Kern / D Alpine Renault F2 7:18,480
No idea which type it was, that's going to be something for the experts round here. By the way look at all the other cars in the results, quite a few fascinating and forgotten cars on there, for instance I mean what's a Rex SP1? or a dangel 2000? I wish I could find one of those race it
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 22:16 (Ref:1898035)   #18
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There's more on Kern here.

Looks like a A367 to me but he did run a A364 in F3 in 1975.

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Old 23 Apr 2007, 08:16 (Ref:1898291)   #19
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did u see Jauslin had 781/1 on the hillclimb results
i assume he bought the old aurora car
i bet he fitte dthe dfv form the lola t294 hu50 car he called 286 into teh 781
he was running alpine v6 in the lola by now allegedly he also had renault powered f2 car not sure if it was the 76 car

i am trying to communicate with him over sports car info
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 21:02 (Ref:1898875)   #20
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There's more on Kern here.

Looks like a A367 to me but he did run a A364 in F3 in 1975.

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Any czech people on here? Could be some important info in there.

As I'm sure you have seen already, a lot of interesting info on here as well: http://www.research-racing.de/AlpineRenault.htm

Good to see things progressing.
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 22:01 (Ref:1898922)   #21
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Roman Krejci wrote that. He posts here as Euromontagne (or something like that).

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Old 30 Apr 2007, 14:52 (Ref:1903464)   #22
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I bumped into this today:

http://forums.autosport.com/showthre...postid=2647180

Very interesting stuff on there! It says a certain Theirry Gay had the an ex-jabouille V6 car in 1999.
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Old 28 Jul 2008, 17:43 (Ref:2259151)   #23
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Unfortunatelly I am not good at Alpine Renault F2 history... but as about Dieter Kern you can see some his data here - http://www.euromontagna.com/driver.p...&id_driver=386, i would be interested in this photo (http://www.euromontagna.com/photo.ph...1982-06-20-001) which is taken in 1982 and describe as Alpine Renault chassis number 77 02/1977... the older years in ecce homo (78-81) Kern had the same car, maybe A364 as described somewhere....
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Old 29 Jul 2008, 08:18 (Ref:2259383)   #24
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looking at the car it is an older chassis with the damper angle and front anti roll bar sticking out behind the slim nose
the bodywork is some Ground effect style nose and side pods and a later rear wing copying the ralt rt2 toleman styling

looking at the roll hoop of all the photos you can see it is the sam unusual shape wide at tub narrow at top

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Old 29 Jul 2008, 16:13 (Ref:2259703)   #25
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That car is the 1977 Elf 2 but with different bodywork, so not an a364. Just take a look at the front suspension and renault V6 engine in the back, chassis is wider than the one of the a364
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Reading through an old Autosprint report of Ecce Homo in 1978 I came across a reference to Kern's winnning Elf-Kauhsen-Renault as 'ex Leclere'.
This would tie in with Martin's later observation of the chassis number 7702 in the early 80s, since we know that Leclere had 7702 in 1977.
This confirms Kurtiejjj's observation that Kern's car really was a Kauhsen, not an earlier Alpine

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