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Old 30 Jan 2009, 00:21 (Ref:2382390)   #1
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FIA mustang homologation papers

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Does any one have or know where to find
65 shelby gt350 homologation papers
and the 84-89 group A mustang engine homologation
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 30 Jan 2009, 00:56 (Ref:2382407)   #2
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have you called CAMS yet?
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Old 30 Jan 2009, 02:11 (Ref:2382438)   #3
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You can order FIA homologation papers online at www.cams.com.au
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Old 30 Jan 2009, 02:30 (Ref:2382450)   #4
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I was hoping someone had them handy .
May as well go give cams some more money
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Old 30 Jan 2009, 06:40 (Ref:2382507)   #5
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I was hoping someone had them handy .
May as well go give cams some more money
I hoped the same thing too, then gave up and just gave CAM$ my money.

To their credit, the papers were in my letterbox, neatly bound & covered, in less than a week!
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Old 30 Jan 2009, 21:34 (Ref:2382884)   #6
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So is this a new 65 shelby gt350 coming to a track near us profi???
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Old 31 Jan 2009, 07:56 (Ref:2383044)   #7
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Already have the car just need to find a catagory



We have had it for a while, but a major rebuild which spanned 4 years.
and now were trying to tame the power. Didnt think id ever say that
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Already have the car just need to find a catagory

We have had it for a while, but a major rebuild which spanned 4 years.
and now were trying to tame the power. Didnt think id ever say that
Hooley Dooley!! what a horn machine!! :

Look forward to seeing it on a track sometime...hey, how bout Easter Bathurst
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Old 31 Jan 2009, 10:13 (Ref:2383088)   #9
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Look forward to seeing it on a track sometime...hey, how bout Easter Bathurst
Which category will i be able to race in.

Im in the process of putting a tex racing diff in.
The old diff didn't agree with the new grunt, and the twisted axles weren't to happy either
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Which category will i be able to race in.

Im in the process of putting a tex racing diff in.
The old diff didn't agree with the new grunt, and the twisted axles weren't to happy either
Common prob with Stangs...just enter for the Regularity if you haven't sorted out Nb or that other mob that follows the V8 Supercars...
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Old 31 Jan 2009, 11:35 (Ref:2383139)   #11
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I cant run the car in nb because its a fastback and they were never raced in Australia. The same thing goes for biante, The mechanical side of the car is somewhere between a biante car and a nz central muscle car.

At the moment im trying to work out homologation details to see if the car can run in improved production, if not a new american muscle car series will be starting in march for cars between 64-75

The car will be on the track no matter what class its in.
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I cant run the car in nb because its a fastback and they were never raced in Australia. The same thing goes for biante, The mechanical side of the car is somewhere between a biante car and a nz central muscle car.

At the moment im trying to work out homologation details to see if the car can run in improved production, if not a new american muscle car series will be starting in march for cars between 64-75

The car will be on the track no matter what class its in.
Oops...my bad...FoSC should let you run as a sports car and/or regularity

http://www.fosc.com.au/Pages/Bathurst/FoSC@Bathurst.htm
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Old 1 Feb 2009, 01:54 (Ref:2383472)   #13
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The Homologation number for the Ford Mustang 5.0 GT for Group A is 5140, dated from 1 May 1983.

Mustang 5.0 GT/ 85 is 5266 1 April 1985.

Just order these from CAMS!
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Profi, you might be able to run it in Group Nc or Group Sb or perhaps Group T.
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profi - how about Group Sb, there are other Shelby's racing there. Not sure if it would be compatible with what you've done to the car but the GT350's in the category seem to pull approx 4 squillion rpm so I gather there is a fair scope for modifications
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profi - how about Group Sb, there are other Shelby's racing there. Not sure if it would be compatible with what you've done to the car but the GT350's in the category seem to pull approx 4 squillion rpm so I gather there is a fair scope for modifications
I think you will find that the Ian Ross GT350 is limited to only 0.0000007500 squillion RPM (but I digress)...have you spoken to CAMS/other promoters about eligibility profi???
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I think you will find that the Ian Ross GT350 is limited to only 0.0000007500 squillion RPM (but I digress)...have you spoken to CAMS/other promoters about eligibility profi???
The car isnt a real shelby but came from the shelby batch, so its the closest possible fake. car before it was a shelby and the car after was also.

The only historic category ive talked to is the new american muscle car series
starting in march. i have also been looking at the Improved production road and that looks hopeful

7500rpm is still plenty but our engine is safe 8000 and has seen nearly 9000 by accident but they sound beautiful at revs

Gavin Bullas'es 69 mustang used to see 9000rpm every lap back when it was in groub NC

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The car isnt a real shelby but came from the shelby batch, so its the closest possible fake. car before it was a shelby and the car after was also.

The only historic category ive talked to is the new american muscle car series
starting in march. i have also been looking at the Improved production road and that looks hopeful

7500rpm is still plenty but our engine is safe 8000 and has seen nearly 9000 by accident but they sound beautiful at revs

Gavin Bullas'es 69 mustang used to see 9000rpm every lap back when it was in groub NC
Dunno what your budget is profi (don't want to know) just trying to suggest opportunities where your Stang might be eligible....dunno if you have ever been around Mount Panorama but that is certainly something to aim for (thats why I suggested you contact FoSC)....nine grand is fine, if you have a friendly engine builder who works and supplies parts for free
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Old 2 Feb 2009, 10:51 (Ref:2384141)   #19
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9000rpm can be made safe look at NASCAR and our engine is along those lines.

I have never driven around bathurst, but its something ive always wanted to do. At the moment the car is a new setup and is a little bit untrustworthy in the handling department. Once its sorted and i get some more seat time bathurst will be on the cards.
Also need the practice there if sports sedans decide to go to the mountain.

BTW I build my own engines and import all the components its lots cheaper.
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what is this american muscle car series that youre talking about profi? sounds interesting
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I dont know to many details at the moment, im getting all the info mailed to me so i should know more soon.

But what i do know is that its for American Muscle cars built between 64-75

I found out about this here Link
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I dont know to many details at the moment, im getting all the info mailed to me so i should know more soon.

But what i do know is that its for American Muscle cars built between 64-75

I found out about this here Link
The First offical meeting of the Australian Trans Am Series is the 14-15 March 2009 Sponsored by TrueLine Patios & Extensions. I'm officially lost!! Is it the NZ mob coming over for a stouch?? is it part of the The Touring Car Masters series?? Would like to know more!!

Would be nice to see this lot!

http://www.trans-amseries.com/
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9000rpm can be made safe look at NASCAR and our engine is along those lines.

I have never driven around bathurst, but its something ive always wanted to do. At the moment the car is a new setup and is a little bit untrustworthy in the handling department. Once its sorted and i get some more seat time bathurst will be on the cards.
Also need the practice there if sports sedans decide to go to the mountain.

BTW I build my own engines and import all the components its lots cheaper.
Safe for how long?? I think you have missed my point about preserving the machinery

Nice to hear of a driver who gets his hands dirty
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Safe for how long??
if you build an engine to rev at these levels all the harmonics are best at the revs so if its built to rev a 9k and only rev it to 7k the harmonics are all wrong and it wont last as long. Thats why NASCAR have very few engine failures. But valve springs should be changed on a regular basis.

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I think you have missed my point about preserving the machinery
So not reving it as much will wear it out faster

That may be the series when i receive the package in the mail ill get back to you with more info.

But i wouldn't it be great if the tranz am's came out
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if you build an engine to rev at these levels all the harmonics are best at the revs so if its built to rev a 9k and only rev it to 7k the harmonics are all wrong and it wont last as long. Thats why NASCAR have very few engine failures. But valve springs should be changed on a regular basis.

So not reving it as much will wear it out faster

That may be the series when i receive the package in the mail ill get back to you with more info.

But i wouldn't it be great if the tranz am's came out
Understand what you are say about nasty harmonics etc...however, you do have to look at your torque curve and power curve and say "well not much point in revving beyond where the torque starts to drop off!"

Look forward to hearing about this "new" series...meanwhile don't ignore other opportunities
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